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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 8:15:44 GMT
To be honest the only issue with converting the 364 into DDs would mean that the pvr would be decreased and also there isn’t enough demand past Goodmayes to justify a DD. And we all know that there is no way that half the route will be converted and the other half not. The real issue is that the buses need to be longer so they can hold more people (but that could be difficult due to the sharp turns) so a new timetable needs to be introduced with more buses on the Ilford- Goodmayes strech. Hopefully the tender in 2019 will bring about good things, but it’s well over due!! The route needs to be salvaged now to ensure people stay with the route and don’t just become uninterested. In all honesty, the 364 has no chance of being decked with the residential roads it traverses between Goodmayes and Ilford. It would be nice; if it were ever allowed by residents, then I see no problem slapping double deckers on, reducing the frequency slightly and leaving half of the route (Martins Corner & southbound) a bit superfluous with capacity. Worse routes like the 13 are grossly overbussed on its section south of Baker Street tbh. The real answer is another route passing through the Seven Kings area, and I am deeply saddened TfL didn't take the opportunity in its Crossrail changes to trundle another route through there. The easiest options would be to extend the 368 via High Road Goodmayes, Seven Kings Station and Aldborough Road South to terminate at Newbury Park Station (plenty of stand space there), or to extend the 179 to Ley Street, Benton Road, Seven Kings and Goodmayes to Chadwell Heath. Both of these suggestions were from Eastlondoner62 I think.  As a resident of the Aldborough Road area I received a letter from the council asking for suggestions to relieve traffic at the junction of Meads Lane and Aldborough during the school run. I suggested the 368 extension you mentioned to give a link to Newbury Park and then beyond NP station via Horns Rd to Barkingside. I received no reply. Also suggested the 396 rerouted via Aldborough, Cameron Rd, High Rd, Barley Lane to King George Hospital. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:07:01 GMT
Saw a double decker trundling down Meads Lane today. Operated by Tower Transit, driver and one other guy on board standing next to driver.
No L plates or Driver under Instruction sign. What gives?
Testing for DD suitability? Are Tower Transit bidding for the route?
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Post by busoccultation on Oct 24, 2018 15:24:32 GMT
Saw a double decker trundling down Meads Lane today. Operated by Tower Transit, driver and one other guy on board standing next to driver. No L plates or Driver under Instruction sign. What gives? Testing for DD suitability? Are Tower Transit bidding for the route? Funnily Enough, I also saw TT DN33795 in Chadwell Heath just before 1130. I'd assume that it is on Rail Replacement route learning duties as they might be running the Newbury Park to Shenfield TfL Rail Replacement route on next weekend. |
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Oct 24, 2018 15:51:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:51:41 GMT
Saw a double decker trundling down Meads Lane today. Operated by Tower Transit, driver and one other guy on board standing next to driver. No L plates or Driver under Instruction sign. What gives? Testing for DD suitability? Are Tower Transit bidding for the route? Funnily Enough, I also saw TT DN33795 in Chadwell Heath just before 1130. I'd assume that it is on Rail Replacement route learning duties as they might be running the Newbury Park to Shenfield TfL Rail Replacement route on next weekend. Those Rail Replacements usually go direct from Newbury Park , Eastern Ave and Barley Lane to Goodmayes. Even so the TT I saw was at about 11am heading down Meads Lane to Aldborough Rd, it then parked at the H+R spot used by 364 for how long I don't know, my bus on the other side of the road came and I got on. |
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Oct 24, 2018 15:55:36 GMT
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Post by 15002 on Oct 24, 2018 15:55:36 GMT
Funnily Enough, I also saw TT DN33795 in Chadwell Heath just before 1130. I'd assume that it is on Rail Replacement route learning duties as they might be running the Newbury Park to Shenfield TfL Rail Replacement route on next weekend. Those Rail Replacements usually go direct from Newbury Park , Eastern Ave and Barley Lane to Goodmayes. Even so the TT I saw was at about 11am heading down Meads Lane to Aldborough Rd, it then parked at the H+R spot used by 364 for how long I don't know, my bus on the other side of the road came and I got on. Bids are due in 05/11/18 for the 364, which is in less than 2 weeks so could be a real posibility that TT are indeed looking to bid for the 364. |
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Post by chazzboi on Sept 29, 2019 17:41:59 GMT
Those Rail Replacements usually go direct from Newbury Park , Eastern Ave and Barley Lane to Goodmayes. Even so the TT I saw was at about 11am heading down Meads Lane to Aldborough Rd, it then parked at the H+R spot used by 364 for how long I don't know, my bus on the other side of the road came and I got on. Bids are due in 05/11/18 for the 364, which is in less than 2 weeks so could be a real posibility that TT are indeed looking to bid for the 364. Well we know now that Go-Ahead have retained the route and will be operating new Enviro 200 MMCs from October. Thank goodness for new buses the old 57 plate buses were dreadful!! I’ll be happy to see the back of them. Still doesn’t solve the issues with overcrowding during peaks but I mean hopefully a new timetable will be issued soon. |
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Post by evergreenadam on Oct 2, 2019 21:42:24 GMT
In all honesty, the 364 has no chance of being decked with the residential roads it traverses between Goodmayes and Ilford. It would be nice; if it were ever allowed by residents, then I see no problem slapping double deckers on, reducing the frequency slightly and leaving half of the route (Martins Corner & southbound) a bit superfluous with capacity. Worse routes like the 13 are grossly overbussed on its section south of Baker Street tbh. The real answer is another route passing through the Seven Kings area, and I am deeply saddened TfL didn't take the opportunity in its Crossrail changes to trundle another route through there. The easiest options would be to extend the 368 via High Road Goodmayes, Seven Kings Station and Aldborough Road South to terminate at Newbury Park Station (plenty of stand space there), or to extend the 179 to Ley Street, Benton Road, Seven Kings and Goodmayes to Chadwell Heath. Both of these suggestions were from Eastlondoner62 I think. As a resident of the Aldborough Road area I received a letter from the council asking for suggestions to relieve traffic at the junction of Meads Lane and Aldborough during the school run. I suggested the 368 extension you mentioned to give a link to Newbury Park and then beyond NP station via Horns Rd to Barkingside. I received no reply. Also suggested the 396 rerouted via Aldborough, Cameron Rd, High Rd, Barley Lane to King George Hospital. Agree that bus links from Newbury Park to south of the A12 are poor, no links to Seven Kings, Goodmayes or Chadwell Heath. |
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Nov 8, 2019 14:39:32 GMT
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Post by chazzboi on Nov 8, 2019 14:39:32 GMT
Bids are due in 05/11/18 for the 364, which is in less than 2 weeks so could be a real posibility that TT are indeed looking to bid for the 364. Well we know now that Go-Ahead have retained the route and will be operating new Enviro 200 MMCs from October. Thank goodness for new buses the old 57 plate buses were dreadful!! I’ll be happy to see the back of them. Still doesn’t solve the issues with overcrowding during peaks but I mean hopefully a new timetable will be issued soon. It’s almost been a week since Go-Ahead retained the 364, still no sign of the new MMCs, does anyone know what’s happening? Will the route get new buses? |
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Post by E279 on Nov 8, 2019 15:34:51 GMT
Well we know now that Go-Ahead have retained the route and will be operating new Enviro 200 MMCs from October. Thank goodness for new buses the old 57 plate buses were dreadful!! I’ll be happy to see the back of them. Still doesn’t solve the issues with overcrowding during peaks but I mean hopefully a new timetable will be issued soon. It’s almost been a week since Go-Ahead retained the 364, still no sign of the new MMCs, does anyone know what’s happening? Will the route get new buses? Been pictures of 2 of the buses however they are currently at Luton doing work there. A few more have appeared on Gov to have been taxed now too so we may some more enter service soon unless they get turned towards Luton temporarily. |
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Post by 15002 on Nov 8, 2019 18:38:12 GMT
Well we know now that Go-Ahead have retained the route and will be operating new Enviro 200 MMCs from October. Thank goodness for new buses the old 57 plate buses were dreadful!! I’ll be happy to see the back of them. Still doesn’t solve the issues with overcrowding during peaks but I mean hopefully a new timetable will be issued soon. It’s almost been a week since Go-Ahead retained the 364, still no sign of the new MMCs, does anyone know what’s happening? Will the route get new buses? Funnily enough I‘m in London today saw an MMC in Thames View, not sure if it is one of the new 364s MMCs or one of the older MMCs since it was quite a distance away. |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Nov 8, 2019 20:38:53 GMT
Well we know now that Go-Ahead have retained the route and will be operating new Enviro 200 MMCs from October. Thank goodness for new buses the old 57 plate buses were dreadful!! I’ll be happy to see the back of them. Still doesn’t solve the issues with overcrowding during peaks but I mean hopefully a new timetable will be issued soon. It’s almost been a week since Go-Ahead retained the 364, still no sign of the new MMCs, does anyone know what’s happening? Will the route get new buses? I'm sure the current SEs can rattle along the route and not fall apart for another couple of weeks |
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Nov 22, 2019 13:02:48 GMT
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Post by chazzboi on Nov 22, 2019 13:02:48 GMT
They have arrived!!! The new enviro 200 MMCs 69 plate buses have arrived and they’re stunning. Look amazing and a delight to sit on especially in the winter evening. They also seem like they hold more people so hopefully they will deal much better with the peak time loadings.
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Post by Alex on Nov 22, 2019 14:28:50 GMT
They have arrived!!! The new enviro 200 MMCs 69 plate buses have arrived and they’re stunning. Look amazing and a delight to sit on especially in the winter evening. They also seem like they hold more people so hopefully they will deal much better with the peak time loadings. Yep, I saw one yesterday in Percy Road - very noticeable and as you say looks very smart. Only saw the one though, the rest that passed me were the older SEs |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 22, 2019 15:17:10 GMT
They have arrived!!! The new enviro 200 MMCs 69 plate buses have arrived and they’re stunning. Look amazing and a delight to sit on especially in the winter evening. They also seem like they hold more people so hopefully they will deal much better with the peak time loadings. I believe capacity is roughly the same give or take but not 100% on that - the outgoing SE's have a slightly higher seated capacity with 3 extra seats at B32D as the MMC's are B29D due to the bigger wheelchair area. Without that expanded area, they would of been B31D  |
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Post by chazzboi on Nov 22, 2019 15:21:51 GMT
They have arrived!!! The new enviro 200 MMCs 69 plate buses have arrived and they’re stunning. Look amazing and a delight to sit on especially in the winter evening. They also seem like they hold more people so hopefully they will deal much better with the peak time loadings. Yep, I saw one yesterday in Percy Road - very noticeable and as you say looks very smart. Only saw the one though, the rest that passed me were the older SEs I’ve seen a fair few, definitely more than one MMC operating. I think the SEs are few and far between on the route now but the new buses are definitely a welcome treat! |
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