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Post by wirewiper on Nov 4, 2022 18:44:36 GMT
Has someone FOI'd all these changes and who decides them, how much it costs, what the justification is for this activity, what criteria is used to decide which route changes are done and what the wording is, which route changes are coming up... etc Surely constantly changing these is costing the business a heap of unnecessary money and time?! The irony is that you berate the cost of making these changes (which is probably less than you imagine), yet you want to tie up someone's time and money justifying these things in great detail.
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Post by greenboy on Nov 4, 2022 19:15:59 GMT
Has someone FOI'd all these changes and who decides them, how much it costs, what the justification is for this activity, what criteria is used to decide which route changes are done and what the wording is, which route changes are coming up... etc Surely constantly changing these is costing the business a heap of unnecessary money and time?! The irony is that you berate the cost of making these changes (which is probably less than you imagine), yet you want to tie up someone's time and money justifying these things in great detail. How else do you get anything done about such a ridiculous waste of public money?
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Post by surab21 on Nov 4, 2022 19:43:54 GMT
Has someone FOI'd all these changes and who decides them, how much it costs, what the justification is for this activity, what criteria is used to decide which route changes are done and what the wording is, which route changes are coming up... etc Surely constantly changing these is costing the business a heap of unnecessary money and time?! The irony is that you berate the cost of making these changes (which is probably less than you imagine), yet you want to tie up someone's time and money justifying these things in great detail. It may well be less than imagined, however nobody can prejudge - I'm just curious. Besides, I'd mostly like to know what the other responsibilities are of the person's job it is to make these changes. Even just now reading the 'upcoming changes' thread there seemed to be no warning about reductions in the frequencies of some routes - it seems that some areas ( such as iBus destination changes on the X140, multiple times) have been getting more attention lately than other perhaps more important areas. I'm not sure of the internal structure of London Buses but if these changes and u-turns were reducing focus on other areas I'd be a bit concerned.
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 4, 2022 20:04:24 GMT
Has someone FOI'd all these changes and who decides them, how much it costs, what the justification is for this activity, what criteria is used to decide which route changes are done and what the wording is, which route changes are coming up... etc Surely constantly changing these is costing the business a heap of unnecessary money and time?! The irony is that you berate the cost of making these changes (which is probably less than you imagine), yet you want to tie up someone's time and money justifying these things in great detail. It's a service that forces institutions to divulge info that arguably should be in the public ether. This is akin to saying a firefighter rescuing a cat from a tree is a waste of time cause they could be rescuing people from burning buildings. A rescue is a rescue; an FOI for sexual assult in grassroots football or wholesale bus changes in London is still an FOI. At the end of the day, someone has agreed the FOI request. If it was too voluminous in work or the information was public knowledge, the request would be rejected.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 4, 2022 20:38:04 GMT
95's East Acton curtailment is now East Acton, Savoy Circus
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 4, 2022 20:41:09 GMT
The irony is that you berate the cost of making these changes (which is probably less than you imagine), yet you want to tie up someone's time and money justifying these things in great detail. It may well be less than imagined, however nobody can prejudge - I'm just curious. Besides, I'd mostly like to know what the other responsibilities are of the person's job it is to make these changes. Even just now reading the 'upcoming changes' thread there seemed to be no warning about reductions in the frequencies of some routes - it seems that some areas ( such as iBus destination changes on the X140, multiple times) have been getting more attention lately than other perhaps more important areas. I'm not sure of the internal structure of London Buses but if these changes and u-turns were reducing focus on other areas I'd be a bit concerned. I do agree about this, I think the cost may be being blown out of proportion on here. Someone at work is probably bored and had no task to do, as can frequently happen with office jobs so was probably given the job to trundle through all the routes and update any destinations that may have needed updating. This person was already being paid to be there, so it may not be any money wasted at all. Most of these random new announcements that are popping up aren't completely new scripts either. The EL1 update at Ilford is just the exact same recording used for the Ilford Hill bus stop, same for the Beckton Bus Station destination where it's the exact same recording as the stop. There are some such as the Gascoigne Road one on the 62 and the King George Hospital one which seem to be completely new recordings, however remember a lot of the time this can be done within the space of just a few hours and Emma Hignett tends to record them in her own house. The fiasco with Heathrow Airport's announcement is probably actually down to people in the office disagreeing what it should be and are playing games to pass the time as opposed to someone physically having sleepless nights over what the destination should be. Although while on that topic, would assume the most obvious destination should be "Heathrow Airport Terminals 2 & 3". Anything with the word "Central" in it implies the most important, biggest or busiest part of the airport. While Terminals 2 and 3 may be slightly busier put together, Terminals 4 and 5 are both the larger ones by area so could very easily be mistaken to be "Central".
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Post by WH241 on Nov 4, 2022 20:45:20 GMT
I wouldn't mind these Ibus changes so much is this didn't change again a few weeks late (Sometimes reverting back to the original version). I hope we won't see such frequent blind destination updates when LEDS become even more widespread across London.
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Post by Unorm on Nov 6, 2022 16:16:48 GMT
118 (and maybe N133): Rowan Road, Manor Road > Pollards Hill, Rowan Road
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Post by vjaska on Nov 6, 2022 16:24:34 GMT
118 (and maybe N133): Rowan Road, Manor Road > Pollards Hill, Rowan Road What a pointless change especially when the I-Bus actually matched the blinds
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Post by surab21 on Nov 8, 2022 17:35:31 GMT
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Post by Dillon95 on Nov 21, 2022 12:08:38 GMT
On the 269 they’ve changed it from Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre to Bexleyheath, Town Centre. Though only the text, the audio says Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre (as do the blinds).
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Post by DT 11 on Nov 21, 2022 13:01:00 GMT
On the 269 they’ve changed it from Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre to Bexleyheath, Town Centre. Though only the text, the audio says Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre (as do the blinds). All the buses will have Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre on the blinds for the 99 269 301 & 401 as that was was previously specified before the most recent Bexleyheath, Town Centre change that is now on some of PDs blinds for the 422… The EPs at BX also display Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre…
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Post by aaron1 on Nov 21, 2022 17:08:58 GMT
On Saturday I was on the 332 and I saw the I bus say Neasden Shopping Parade, but the announcement say Neasden Shopping Centre don't know way is any other routes that the announcements and Ibus are different
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Post by surab21 on Dec 12, 2022 19:37:02 GMT
All night buses terminating at Trafalgar Square are now 'to Charing Cross Station, Trafalgar Square'. This is the same for curtailments on through routes (night only)
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Post by londonbuses184 on Dec 12, 2022 20:55:10 GMT
All night buses terminating at Trafalgar Square are now 'to Charing Cross Station, Trafalgar Square'. This is the same for curtailments on through routes (night only) Daytime routes as well
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