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Post by theexplorer on Dec 11, 2018 16:22:23 GMT
Wonder how many bus routes there are that serve an area indirectly while serving another but nevertheless still very close by (e.g within walking distance)? One example is the 8/25/205 at Bow Church to which the start of Bromley by Bow is about less then a five minute walk once across Bromley High Street.
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Post by 15002 on Dec 11, 2018 16:32:17 GMT
365 during the night. Serves as both the Dagenham (aside from the weekend 24 hour 145) and Rainham night bus. It’s like a 15 minute walk from South Street to Rainham Tesco and about 5-10 minutes to Dagenham.
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Post by busoccultation on Dec 11, 2018 17:08:53 GMT
The 123 in Walthamstow, It serves a large area of Walthamstow but it doesn't go to Town Centre/Central Station and it requires at least 10 mins walk or a one bus ride to Forest Road to get the 123.
The same can be said with the 158 where it doesn't go to Town Centre/Central Station and that can be done with 5-10 mins walk between St James Street and those aforementioned areas.
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Post by routemasterlover on Dec 11, 2018 17:52:32 GMT
Route 250?
Although it does go Norbury, but it doesn't directly serve Norbury (like where London Road and the Train station is and all that)
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Post by sid on Dec 11, 2018 18:24:00 GMT
A couple that spring to mind.
The 122 serves Eltham Green and Well Hall roundabout but not Eltham town centre.
The P4 serves Horniman Museum and the edge of Forest Hill but not the shopping area and station.
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 11, 2018 18:58:04 GMT
Wonder how many bus routes there are that serve an area indirectly while serving another but nevertheless still very close by (e.g within walking distance)? One example is the 8/25/205 at Bow Church to which the start of Bromley by Bow is about less then a five minute walk once across Bromley High Street. Do the 97, 108, 339 and 388 (and National Express coaches) serving Stratford City but not Stratford Town Centre count? Also, the 388 doesn't quite manage to serve Stratford International Station. |
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Post by 15002 on Dec 11, 2018 19:07:03 GMT
Wonder how many bus routes there are that serve an area indirectly while serving another but nevertheless still very close by (e.g within walking distance)? One example is the 8/25/205 at Bow Church to which the start of Bromley by Bow is about less then a five minute walk once across Bromley High Street. Do the 97, 108, 339 and 388 (and National Express coaches) serving Stratford City but not Stratford Town Centre count? Also, the 388 doesn't quite manage to serve Stratford International Station. I’m sure they’d count, as well as the routes that serve the bus station but don’t serve Stratford City. |
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Post by ronnie on Dec 11, 2018 19:19:22 GMT
The 40 - it stands closer to Liverpool Street than Aldgate (and the first / last stop is further away than Liverpool Street!) but neither picks up nor drops passengers from there?
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Post by snoggle on Dec 11, 2018 19:41:12 GMT
The 123 in Walthamstow, It serves a large area of Walthamstow but it doesn't go to Town Centre/Central Station and it requires at least 10 mins walk or a one bus ride to Forest Road to get the 123. The same can be said with the 158 where it doesn't go to Town Centre/Central Station and that can be done with 5-10 mins walk between St James Street and those aforementioned areas.
And from a historical note there was never any bus quick link [1] from Markhouse Road / Blackhorse Rd to Walthamstow Central for decades when Selborne Road was closed off to allow the old post 1968 bus station to operate in Walthamstow. We also didn't have buses to places like Palmerston Rd, Priory Court or Higham Hill. People had long walks or else a slightly less long walk to a bus route which still wouldn't get you very close to the main shopping area (High St) in Walthamstow. Now there's a positive over supply of buses on Selborne Road with links to lots of places. We also have the "down the back lane" 212/275 routeing to St James St Stn - remarkably popular as well. And from a point of view of "personal paranoia" all of those new links and routes were introduced just after I moved away from that bit of Walthamstow!! I used to live down Markhouse Rd then later near Palmerston Rd and later near Wood St. After I moved from the latter location LT increased the frequency of the 212 and 275 just so I couldn't benefit from it!!   [1] if you lived near Lea Bridge Road then there was the old 55, later 48, via Bakers Arms to the Central. Those were not the best performing or frequent routes in the mid 80s. |
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Post by rhys on Dec 11, 2018 20:30:50 GMT
A couple that spring to mind. The 122 serves Eltham Green and Well Hall roundabout but not Eltham town centre. The P4 serves Horniman Museum and the edge of Forest Hill but not the shopping area and station. The P4 can also be used as an example in Herne Hill. It runs across the full length of Herne Hill Road, crossing Herne Hill at the southeastern end of Herne Hill Road, but it doesn't actually serve Herne Hill. The 322 practically serves West Dulwich, it turns off Robson Road/Park Hall Road onto Rosendale Road, into it's hail & ride section, just skipping out the remaining section of Park Hall Road that leads into West Dulwich (Croxted Road/South Croxted Road). The 75 & 197 skirt the southern part of Anerley, but don't serve the main part, by the station. |
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Post by busaholic on Dec 11, 2018 21:37:33 GMT
A couple that spring to mind. The 122 serves Eltham Green and Well Hall roundabout but not Eltham town centre. The P4 serves Horniman Museum and the edge of Forest Hill but not the shopping area and station. There's an historical explanation for the 122 not going via Eltham. Without going into too much detail, there were two tram routes that went from Woolwich to Lewisham, New Cross and beyond via Well Hall Roundabout and Eltham Green, one via Westhorne Avenue and the other via Eltham Church, and I regret to say I'm old enough to just about remember them! They were two of the last tram routes of all, surviving to July 1952. The replacement bus services were the 182 and the 186, the former via Eltham and the latter not. A 'reshaping' occurred in that the 186 took over what had been the 94 routeing from Lewisham to Crystal Palace, and today's 122 is essentially the old 186 as far as Woolwich. The 182 retained a through service to New Cross, the Old Kent Road and Southwark Bridge but, inevitably, with declining bus ridership in the 1950s, the duplication with the 21 over the Eltham to Borough section saw the 182's withdrawal. It was home for a few years to the lightweight pre-war RT class, with their roofboxes front and rear, which included RT8, which is why I'm eager to re-acquaint myself with that still extant bus one day. |
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Post by vjaska on Dec 11, 2018 21:41:31 GMT
Although the 345 does serve Brixton, it doesn’t serve the main shopping area - neither does the 37 or P5 but they get right up to the main shopping area instead at the very least and the P5 serves the market & Brixton Village.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 11, 2018 22:29:27 GMT
The 152 passes within the Wimbledon area without serving Wimbledon town centre, instead passing a few minutes walk from there. The 156 and N87 are similar for the Southfields area where it doesn't pass outside the tube station.
The G1 terminates footsteps from Norbury Station under the borough of Croydon despite its terminus being Streatham: Green Lane under the borough of Lambeth.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 11, 2018 22:54:12 GMT
The 417 runs right along the boundary of what is Streatham & West Norwood along Leigham Court Road without ever going near the main areas.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 11, 2018 23:02:29 GMT
The 145 and 173 both manage to serve Barking without going to the town centre, the 262 and 325 aren't too far from the south of Barking either.
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