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Post by busboy17 on Apr 12, 2019 0:09:08 GMT
Which operator be the best
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Post by george on Apr 12, 2019 0:15:52 GMT
Which operator be the best Think you wi get loads of different views on here. At the end of day some people will be pleased others won't. |
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Post by busboy17 on Apr 12, 2019 0:18:08 GMT
Which operator be the best Think you can get loads of different views on here. At the end of day some people will be pleased others won't. Thanks I just wanted to hear others opinion |
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Post by Pilot on Apr 12, 2019 0:53:06 GMT
Probably not stagecoach, but maybe stagecoach because they can't bid on those trains or whatever lol.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 12, 2019 1:07:47 GMT
Which operator be the best Think you wi get loads of different views on here. At the end of day some people will be pleased others won't. Indeed - no matter what our different opinions are which none are right or wrong, what matters is it goes to the operator/company who offer the best plan for the business. |
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Post by abellion on Apr 12, 2019 18:59:45 GMT
I'd honestly not be surprised if Go-Ahead jumps in to everything
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 12, 2019 19:48:15 GMT
I'd honestly not be surprised if Go-Ahead jumps in to everything I think that would attract the attention of competition regulators, they'd be close to 40% of the London bus network and would quite probably monopolise on some town centres such as Croydon and only Abellio would be the competition in such places, with Stagecoach being the only competition in the East. |
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Post by rif153 on Apr 12, 2019 20:34:07 GMT
Aren't there rules preventing operators having more than a certain percentage of the bus network? If, as I believe there are, what is that percentage?
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Post by george on Apr 12, 2019 20:42:21 GMT
Aren't there rules preventing operators having more than a certain percentage of the bus network? If, as I believe there are, what is that percentage? yep there is, not sure what it is exactly but there is no way Go ahead would be aloud to take over. |
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Post by VWH1414 on Apr 12, 2019 20:53:09 GMT
Aren't there rules preventing operators having more than a certain percentage of the bus network? If, as I believe there are, what is that percentage? yep there is, not sure what it is exactly but there is no way Go ahead would be aloud to take over. Its supposed to be 25%, which Go Ahead are currently bumping up to. Here is a list of the other operators current percentages: Abellio - 8.03% CT Plus - 1.68% Metroline - 17.86% (This has actually dropped - It was on 18-19 not long ago) RATP - 12.20% Stagecoach - 12.40% Sullivan Buses - 0.73% Tower Transit - 4.34% Arriva currently own 18.23% (So currently 2nd place, just above Metroline by roughly 1%), so unless 1 company swoops in and buys the whole lot, I can see it just being divided up.
I could see companies such as Rotala, Nat Ex and Transdev potentially being interested into coming into/re-entering the London bus market. I could see Stagecoach being interested in some of the East London depots such as AE, DX, GY etc. I could also see companies such as Abellio being interested in some of the South London depots such as TC, BN etc. Metroline may even jump in, in North London and take depots such as WN. Tbh it will be interesting to see what does happen, whether Arriva is just sold as a brand to another company or whether it is broken up and the London operation split up. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 12, 2019 21:05:45 GMT
yep there is, not sure what it is exactly but there is no way Go ahead would be aloud to take over. Its supposed to be 25%, which Go Ahead are currently bumping up to. Here is a list of the other operators current percentages: Abellio - 8.03% CT Plus - 1.68% Metroline - 17.86% (This has actually dropped - It was on 18-19 not long ago) RATP - 12.20% Stagecoach - 12.40% Sullivan Buses - 0.73% Tower Transit - 4.34% Arriva currently own 18.23% (So currently 2nd place, just above Metroline by roughly 1%), so unless 1 company swoops in and buys the whole lot, I can see it just being divided up.
I could see companies such as Rotala, Nat Ex and Transdev potentially being interested into coming into/re-entering the London bus market. I could see Stagecoach being interested in some of the East London depots such as AE, DX, GY etc. I could also see companies such as Abellio being interested in some of the South London depots such as TC, BN etc. Metroline may even jump in, in North London and take depots such as WN. Tbh it will be interesting to see what does happen, whether Arriva is just sold as a brand to another company or whether it is broken up and the London operation split up.I also wonder what the chances of an investment firm picking the whole lot up, although that didn't go terribly well last time that happened to a certain London operator  |
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Post by busaholic on Apr 12, 2019 23:13:30 GMT
Richard Branson could be interested if they'd allow him to splash his lousy branding all over the buses!
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Post by YY13VKP on Apr 12, 2019 23:21:03 GMT
Richard Branson could be interested if they'd allow him to splash his lousy branding all over the buses! Especially now that Virgin Trains is on the brink of disappearing... could we have Virgin Buses perhaps |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 12, 2019 23:45:18 GMT
Richard Branson could be interested if they'd allow him to splash his lousy branding all over the buses! I've used Virgin Trains and had a good experience so I'd give him a crack at it if he is interested - he could always use contacts with Stagecoach to help him out I'd imagine. |
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Post by dennistas on Apr 12, 2019 23:51:29 GMT
How soon will we find out if Arriva definately leave London?
AFAIK it won't be in the foreseeable future and nothing has been confirmed as yet!
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