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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 28, 2020 16:08:44 GMT
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 28, 2020 16:43:14 GMT
This sponsorship deal does nothing to add value to the network already in place apart from add a couple million to the piggy bank. It'd be an acceptable argument if TfL said it wanted to increase contactless payments on the cusp of closing ticket offices perhaps, but that event has happened years ago. There's nothing to suggest either that this partnership with Google can potentially improve ticket barrier technology already in place across the Tube network.
All this article says is "Hey, why don't we use the yellow reader as advertising space", nothing to shout about really.
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Post by george on Feb 28, 2020 17:42:45 GMT
For the first two weeks the following stations will get a special promotional G Pay Sticker. King's Cross, London Bridge,Stratford,Tottenham Court Road and Victoria.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 28, 2020 17:44:00 GMT
This sponsorship deal does nothing to add value to the network already in place apart from add a couple million to the piggy bank. It'd be an acceptable argument if TfL said it wanted to increase contactless payments on the cusp of closing ticket offices perhaps, but that event has happened years ago. There's nothing to suggest either that this partnership with Google can potentially improve ticket barrier technology already in place across the Tube network. All this article says is "Hey, why don't we use the yellow reader as advertising space", nothing to shout about really. Surely it is better than saying we have to find another £2m of cuts. |
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 29, 2020 8:47:37 GMT
This sponsorship deal does nothing to add value to the network already in place apart from add a couple million to the piggy bank. It'd be an acceptable argument if TfL said it wanted to increase contactless payments on the cusp of closing ticket offices perhaps, but that event has happened years ago. There's nothing to suggest either that this partnership with Google can potentially improve ticket barrier technology already in place across the Tube network. All this article says is "Hey, why don't we use the yellow reader as advertising space", nothing to shout about really. Surely it is better than saying we have to find another £2m of cuts. It goes a little way to stemming cuts, but what's more favourable & financially lucrative are things like Crossrail being operational and increased patronage on buses in particular which is tumbling like mountain rocks. What TfL is doing to have bus usership increase in 2021-22 as per their business plan without relying on Crossrail remains to be seen; but when for example they push forward with plans to decimate the 25 losing millions of journeys for the sake of saving circa 20 buses off a PVR is silly to me. Real bus priority is making bus lanes operational for a longer time and not killing valuable links that generate patronage, such as the 53 picking up at Whitehall instead of County Hall. Why don't TfL take a book out of Go Ahead's Brighton division and name buses in London after notable people in the capital? I'd open the floor for individuals who are alive as well as deceased, and have Joe & Jenny Public vote for their choices which will get users more involved with the bus network. |
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 29, 2020 10:19:46 GMT
Surely it is better than saying we have to find another £2m of cuts. It goes a little way to stemming cuts, but what's more favourable & financially lucrative are things like Crossrail being operational and increased patronage on buses in particular which is tumbling like mountain rocks. What TfL is doing to have bus usership increase in 2021-22 as per their business plan without relying on Crossrail remains to be seen; but when for example they push forward with plans to decimate the 25 losing millions of journeys for the sake of saving circa 20 buses off a PVR is silly to me. Real bus priority is making bus lanes operational for a longer time and not killing valuable links that generate patronage, such as the 53 picking up at Whitehall instead of County Hall. Why don't TfL take a book out of Go Ahead's Brighton division and name buses in London after notable people in the capital? I'd open the floor for individuals who are alive as well as deceased, and have Joe & Jenny Public vote for their choices which will get users more involved with the bus network. Saving 20 buses will be a saving of around £4m a year ... and besides you can't look at the 25s passenger numbers in isolation without looking at the 425s. If they could do anything to get Crossrail open any sooner I imagine they would. Surely it is down to operators if they wish to name vehicles ... not TfL? |
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Post by ibus246 on Mar 1, 2020 10:44:11 GMT
Think I saw these at Victoria a couple of weeks ago
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Post by enviroPB on Mar 2, 2020 13:48:39 GMT
It goes a little way to stemming cuts, but what's more favourable & financially lucrative are things like Crossrail being operational and increased patronage on buses in particular which is tumbling like mountain rocks. What TfL is doing to have bus usership increase in 2021-22 as per their business plan without relying on Crossrail remains to be seen; but when for example they push forward with plans to decimate the 25 losing millions of journeys for the sake of saving circa 20 buses off a PVR is silly to me. Real bus priority is making bus lanes operational for a longer time and not killing valuable links that generate patronage, such as the 53 picking up at Whitehall instead of County Hall. Why don't TfL take a book out of Go Ahead's Brighton division and name buses in London after notable people in the capital? I'd open the floor for individuals who are alive as well as deceased, and have Joe & Jenny Public vote for their choices which will get users more involved with the bus network. Saving 20 buses will be a saving of around £4m a year ... and besides you can't look at the 25s passenger numbers in isolation without looking at the 425s. If they could do anything to get Crossrail open any sooner I imagine they would. Surely it is down to operators if they wish to name vehicles ... not TfL? As you've requested, I've had a look at the patronage figures and I still won't accept 5 million less passengers since the City Thameslink cull on the 25 has transferred into a 2 million increase on the 425 during the same time. All the 3 million displaced didn't suddenly hop onto the 8, barely 250,000 increase in 18/19. I don't know how much each bus passenger journey costs on average but I do know all those displaced passengers will not wilfully jump on the already packed Tube services because TfL chop up useful bus services. Let's be honest, most of those passengers have found alternatives to the transport network altogether, namely cycling and private hire cars such as Uber. Omitting maybe the 301 and the decking of the 178 as they haven't had associated Crossrail cuts to introduce them, TfL should've held up on all Elizabeth Line changes (particularly in west London) as they're ruining bus services and ultimately losing money for the sake of saving a few bob from PVR cuts. It just doesn't make sense. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 13, 2020 0:00:13 GMT
For the first two weeks the following stations will get a special promotional G Pay Sticker. King's Cross, London Bridge,Stratford,Tottenham Court Road and Victoria. They are at Liverpool Street station |
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Post by george on Mar 13, 2020 18:49:47 GMT
For the first two weeks the following stations will get a special promotional G Pay Sticker. King's Cross, London Bridge,Stratford,Tottenham Court Road and Victoria. They are at Liverpool Street station All have got them but the 5 stations mentioned the stickers are slightly different as they don't mention the other method of payments like oyster card. |
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