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Post by greenboy on Mar 12, 2020 12:57:57 GMT
I could quite conceivably see the 271 being extended to Brent Cross (or Golders Green and the 268 extended to Brent Cross) and the 210 axed with the 143 extended to Finsbury Park. It would also remove the allegedly problematical 271 stand in Highgate Village. That's a lot of changes just to remove a route from a stand - the easy solution is to simply extend the 271 to Highgate Wood to stand with the 234 rather than making wholesale changes that break links. The main purpose would be cutting costs, solving the stand problem would just be an added bonus. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 12, 2020 13:16:57 GMT
Or, I know it's a slight pain but why not say that buses do not pick up at the stand then it wont be an unaccessible stop. Make the first stop on the main road.
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Post by rif153 on Mar 12, 2020 13:52:54 GMT
120 and H32 share a southern terminus of Hounslow Bus Station with the 120 passing the H32's northern terminus of Southall Town Hall
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Post by kmkcheng on Mar 12, 2020 13:58:44 GMT
U1 and U10 serves both ends of 331
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Post by kmkcheng on Mar 12, 2020 13:59:18 GMT
The 182 passes both terminus’s of the 223 and H17. The 483 also serves both ends of the 223 and H17 |
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Post by COBO on Mar 12, 2020 14:24:13 GMT
The 13 passes both termini of the 268
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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2020 14:52:21 GMT
That's a lot of changes just to remove a route from a stand - the easy solution is to simply extend the 271 to Highgate Wood to stand with the 234 rather than making wholesale changes that break links. The main purpose would be cutting costs, solving the stand problem would just be an added bonus. At the expense of passengers - its in stark contrast to something you said on another thread in regards to TfL needing to attract passengers. Breaking links like this will highly likely have the opposite effect. The stand issue is the only problem here, not removing routes that are useful. |
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Post by greenboy on Mar 12, 2020 15:30:04 GMT
The main purpose would be cutting costs, solving the stand problem would just be an added bonus. At the expense of passengers - its in stark contrast to something you said on another thread in regards to TfL needing to attract passengers. Breaking links like this will highly likely have the opposite effect. The stand issue is the only problem here, not removing routes that are useful. There was a post on here recently about a 10% drop in bus usage which means further cuts are pretty much inevitable unless TfL can attract more passengers or fares go up which will just lose more passengers and lead to even more cuts in the future. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2020 18:38:42 GMT
At the expense of passengers - its in stark contrast to something you said on another thread in regards to TfL needing to attract passengers. Breaking links like this will highly likely have the opposite effect. The stand issue is the only problem here, not removing routes that are useful. There was a post on here recently about a 10% drop in bus usage which means further cuts are pretty much inevitable unless TfL can attract more passengers or fares go up which will just lose more passengers and lead to even more cuts in the future. And by making cuts to well established routes and unnecessarily breaking links as you proposed, you will lose more passengers. |
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Post by greenboy on Mar 12, 2020 23:23:54 GMT
There was a post on here recently about a 10% drop in bus usage which means further cuts are pretty much inevitable unless TfL can attract more passengers or fares go up which will just lose more passengers and lead to even more cuts in the future. And by making cuts to well established routes and unnecessarily breaking links as you proposed, you will lose more passengers. Well buses are like anything else, use them or lose them. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 13, 2020 0:24:06 GMT
And by making cuts to well established routes and unnecessarily breaking links as you proposed, you will lose more passengers. Well buses are like anything else, use them or lose them. Ok but even with the decline, they're still being used and still carry far more people than the tube if I'm not mistaken. I think people should be very careful about suggesting cutting routes that perhaps they don't know compared to local people hence why I don't make similar proposals for many North & Eastern routes and mainly keep to my own area. |
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Post by ronnie on Mar 13, 2020 7:37:45 GMT
N15 and N551 pass through both ends of N550
N25 passes both ends of N253
147 and 474 pass both ends of 300
101 and 474 pass both ends of 376
X26 passes both ends of 111 and 285
211 passes both ends of 507
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 13, 2020 8:07:12 GMT
N15 and N551 pass through both ends of N550 N25 passes both ends of N253 147 and 474 pass both ends of 300 101 and 474 pass both ends of 376 X26 passes both ends of 111 and 285 211 passes both ends of 507 With the last 2 (and maybe others), the routes all terminate at the same place at one end so it doesn't "pass" there |
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Post by rif153 on Mar 13, 2020 17:37:09 GMT
381 passes both ends of the 521
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Post by ronnie on Mar 13, 2020 18:03:50 GMT
N11 and N9 pass both ends of N97
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