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Post by LK65EBO on Apr 22, 2021 17:58:01 GMT
Does anyone know what buses the 160/660 and 180 are getting?
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Post by busoccultation on Apr 22, 2021 18:06:40 GMT
Does anyone know what buses the 160/660 and 180 are getting? 25 new E400 EV's (numbered as 14148-14172) are on order for both routes with the 180 also using a part allocation of 14/64 reg E400 Hybrids.
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Post by ADH45258 on Apr 22, 2021 19:24:55 GMT
Does anyone know what buses the 160/660 and 180 are getting? 25 new E400 EV's (numbered as 14148-14172) are on order for both routes with the 180 also using a part allocation of 14/64 reg E400 Hybrids. Are the 6x E40Hs a permanent part allocation for route 180, or just until the reroute to North Greenwich takes place?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Apr 22, 2021 19:44:48 GMT
25 new E400 EV's (numbered as 14148-14172) are on order for both routes with the 180 also using a part allocation of 14/64 reg E400 Hybrids. Are the 6x E40Hs a permanent part allocation for route 180, or just until the reroute to North Greenwich takes place? I believe they are permanent as they were part of the award which was based on the route going to North Greenwich. However the reroute is now unlikely to take place on the award date so a few extra buses may need to be drafted in.
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Post by bus12451 on Apr 22, 2021 20:13:05 GMT
25 new E400 EV's (numbered as 14148-14172) are on order for both routes with the 180 also using a part allocation of 14/64 reg E400 Hybrids. Are the 6x E40Hs a permanent part allocation for route 180, or just until the reroute to North Greenwich takes place? I thought the 180 was getting 7 E400Hs (12324-12326 12342-12345) + 11 E400EVs, unless that has been changed? 7 + 11 = 18 which matches its PVR, although without a spare bus.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Apr 22, 2021 20:50:20 GMT
Are the 6x E40Hs a permanent part allocation for route 180, or just until the reroute to North Greenwich takes place? I thought the 180 was getting 7 E400Hs (12324-12326 12342-12345) + 11 E400EVs, unless that has been changed? 7 + 11 = 18 which matches its PVR, although without a spare bus. I'm sure there's plenty of spare coverage at PD to cover spares for the 180
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Post by vjaska on Apr 22, 2021 21:37:39 GMT
Are the 6x E40Hs a permanent part allocation for route 180, or just until the reroute to North Greenwich takes place? I thought the 180 was getting 7 E400Hs (12324-12326 12342-12345) + 11 E400EVs, unless that has been changed? 7 + 11 = 18 which matches its PVR, although without a spare bus. I believe it’s 7 AFAIK
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Apr 24, 2021 11:06:04 GMT
I thought the 180 was getting 7 E400Hs (12324-12326 12342-12345) + 11 E400EVs, unless that has been changed? 7 + 11 = 18 which matches its PVR, although without a spare bus. I believe it’s 7 AFAIK Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!).
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Post by vjaska on Apr 24, 2021 12:03:44 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). 7 hybrids with the rest being electric. The PVR isn’t 14, it’s around the 17 mark I don’t see the Scanias being re-blinded for the 180 which is a shame as I like variety but I certainly suspect the MMC’s will do at some point
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Post by busoccultation on Apr 24, 2021 12:53:21 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). 7 hybrids with the rest being electric. The PVR isn’t 14, it’s around the 17 mark I don’t see the Scanias being re-blinded for the 180 which is a shame as I like variety but I certainly suspect the MMC’s will do at some point 19747/19748 both recently got transferred back to PD which presumably been reallocated to the 422 on paper to release futher 2 more hybirds and that would been there will be 9 hybrids allocated to the 180.
By the looks of things, out of the 25 electrics on order with 15 of them going to TL for the 160/660 and the remaining 10 to PD for the 180 alongside 9 E400 Hybrids.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Apr 24, 2021 16:53:59 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). 7 hybrids with the rest being electric. The PVR isn’t 14, it’s around the 17 mark I don’t see the Scanias being re-blinded for the 180 which is a shame as I like variety but I certainly suspect the MMC’s will do at some point Yes I'm hoping to see MMCs on the route along with the electrics. As for Scanias however...
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Post by bus12451 on Apr 24, 2021 18:28:08 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). The Scanias do not have long left so I doubt they'll be reblinded for one extra route, probably not worth reblinding them for only a short time period before they're withdrawn. Judging by the most recent route gains at PD, namely the 161 and 422, I would say it's unlikely that the entire fleet will be reblinded for the 180. The 53, 122 and 177 run further west than the other PD routes and are strictly allocated hybrid buses (53 is a must for obvious reasons), I'm willing to bet that the 180 will be in the same boat as those 3 routes in the sense that it would use nothing but electrics and hybrids, especially as it will have a part hybrid allocation. I think it's very likely that the E400Hs (including MMC) will be reblinded for the 180, then maybe the diesel E400s and the Volvo B5LH E400 MMCs. The Volvos however may depend on whether or not Stagecoach are able to retain the 177 with its current allocation.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 24, 2021 21:04:08 GMT
7 hybrids with the rest being electric. The PVR isn’t 14, it’s around the 17 mark I don’t see the Scanias being re-blinded for the 180 which is a shame as I like variety but I certainly suspect the MMC’s will do at some point Yes I'm hoping to see MMCs on the route along with the electrics. As for Scanias however... I'm personally hoping Scanias become common enough to an extent so I can grab a ride but I very much doubt it in all honesty.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 24, 2021 21:05:57 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). The Scanias do not have long left so I doubt they'll be reblinded for one extra route, probably not worth reblinding them for only a short time period before they're withdrawn. Judging by the most recent route gains at PD, namely the 161 and 422, I would say it's unlikely that the entire fleet will be reblinded for the 180. The 53, 122 and 177 run further west than the other PD routes and are strictly allocated hybrid buses (53 is a must for obvious reasons), I'm willing to bet that the 180 will be in the same boat as those 3 routes in the sense that it would use nothing but electrics and hybrids, especially as it will have a part hybrid allocation. I think it's very likely that the E400Hs (including MMC) will be reblinded for the 180, then maybe the diesel E400s and the Volvo B5LH E400 MMCs. The Volvos however may depend on whether or not Stagecoach are able to retain the 177 with its current allocation. Why are the 122 & 177 all of a suddenly strictly hybrid only? I remember a couple of years ago that practically anything went on both routes with the 53 strictly using Enviro 400's and then MMC's
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Post by Gellico on Apr 24, 2021 21:20:26 GMT
Is that seven electrics, with the PVR going down to 14? I wonder if the whole fleet at PD will be blinded for the 180 (but not the Scanias hopefully!). The Scanias do not have long left so I doubt they'll be reblinded for one extra route, probably not worth reblinding them for only a short time period before they're withdrawn. Judging by the most recent route gains at PD, namely the 161 and 422, I would say it's unlikely that the entire fleet will be reblinded for the 180. The 53, 122 and 177 run further west than the other PD routes and are strictly allocated hybrid buses (53 is a must for obvious reasons), I'm willing to bet that the 180 will be in the same boat as those 3 routes in the sense that it would use nothing but electrics and hybrids, especially as it will have a part hybrid allocation. I think it's very likely that the E400Hs (including MMC) will be reblinded for the 180, then maybe the diesel E400s and the Volvo B5LH E400 MMCs. The Volvos however may depend on whether or not Stagecoach are able to retain the 177 with its current allocation. Scanias and Volvos haven't done any new route won since 2018, this won't change. They'll stick to what they do.
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