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Post by busoccultation on May 28, 2022 9:10:45 GMT
Does anyone know what blind sets the E400s and Scanias have at WH? I know the 12xxx batch have 2020 sets along with a few Smart Hybrids, the rest of the Smarts have 2022 sets. I am curious about the E400s as they are still being used on the 474 on occasions so not sure if they have update curtailment points for the 474. Also the same for the 241 I didn't think older blind sets would have side blinds for 241 Prince Regent. 19852/19853 have the 2017 sets and the rest of WH E400's have the 2018 sets that have the 474 on them and should have the updates for the 241 (not the Royal Wharf extension) & 330 changes , for the Scanias it is a mixture of 2017 sets and 2018 sets.
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Post by WH241 on May 28, 2022 9:16:19 GMT
Does anyone know what blind sets the E400s and Scanias have at WH? I know the 12xxx batch have 2020 sets along with a few Smart Hybrids, the rest of the Smarts have 2022 sets. I am curious about the E400s as they are still being used on the 474 on occasions so not sure if they have update curtailment points for the 474. Also the same for the 241 I didn't think older blind sets would have side blinds for 241 Prince Regent. 19852/19853 have the 2017 sets and the rest of WH E400's have the 2018 sets that have the 474 on them and should have the updates for the 241 (not the Royal Wharf extension) & 330 changes , for the Scanias it is a mixture of 2017 sets and 2018 sets. Thanks for confirming. The 2018 blinds are for the old proposed 241 terminating at Custom House so guess they wouldn't have 241 - Prince Regent side blinds. They could display Prince Regent on from front as they have 473 curtailments.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 28, 2022 12:23:53 GMT
And I got ridiculed for talking about the Stagecoach takeover of Lea Interchange a few weeks back… You were ridiculed because you said [T] was closing and everything was moving into [LI] on Stagecoach purchase. If we do hear that it would happen within the next month or so, we would all bow down to your superiority.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 28, 2022 12:28:55 GMT
Rumour has it that WH is shutting down and LI is there to replace it pretty much, is there any truth to this? * DING DING * round two Imagine [WH] came about when [SD] and [WA] was closed because of the Olympic Park development. I believe where [WA] was a garage could be built, but doubt that would ever se the light of day, where [SD] was it is part of the press centre IIRC
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Post by ThinLizzy on May 28, 2022 15:31:53 GMT
Rumour has it that WH is shutting down and LI is there to replace it pretty much, is there any truth to this? think it's best to wait and see what happens. There's not much spare depot capacity within Stagecoach East London at the moment, especially after the 25/425 win and giving up half of WH.. Also bear in mind WH is where the Head Office is.
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Post by cl54 on May 28, 2022 17:45:46 GMT
Rumour has it that WH is shutting down and LI is there to replace it pretty much, is there any truth to this? think it's best to wait and see what happens. There's not much spare depot capacity within Stagecoach East London at the moment, especially after the 25/425 win and giving up half of WH.. Also bear in mind WH is where the Head Office is. Given the massive housing development just north of the WH site I do wonder how long it will survive. It is a very valuable site with the nearby rail connections.
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Post by TNA33379 on May 28, 2022 21:37:14 GMT
Route 497 extension - 4 June 2022 Route Affected: 497 From Saturday 4 June we will be making some changes to route 497. The route will be extended from its current terminus on Hilldene Avenue in Harold Hill via Dagnam Park Drive, Leamington Drive and Petersfield Avenue to terminate on Dagnam Park Drive at the same location as route 174 terminates at. Towards Harold Wood Station buses will run via Dagnam Park Drive back to Hilldene Avenue. A new timetable will be in place on route 497 with buses continuing to run every 30 minutes during the daytime on Monday to Saturdays and every 60 minutes after 2100 each night. Unfortunately, due to low usage we will be withdrawing the Sunday service on route 497 from this date. The new times for route 497 can be found in our journey planner tool at www.tfl.gov.uk/plan-a-journey. A map of route 497 can be found by following this link and clicking on map view: www.tfl.gov.uk/bus/route/497
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Post by WH241 on May 29, 2022 8:54:16 GMT
I have a question about the Scania allocations at Stagecoach which I am sure someone will know.
When the 205 received E400Hs its Scania moved to the 277. Where did they that batch go when the 277 received E400H MMcs? was it to the 97 I know it had a tender renewal in 2017 did it receive the buses in advance of the renewal?
Also the 262 /473 - Where did this batch of Scania's come from in 2014?
Thank you!
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Post by busoccultation on May 29, 2022 9:17:13 GMT
I have a question about the Scania allocations at Stagecoach which I am sure someone will know.
When the 205 received E400Hs its Scania moved to the 277. Where did they that batch go when the 277 received E400H MMcs? was it to the 97 I know it had a tender renewal in 2017 did it receive the buses in advance of the renewal?
Also the 262 /473 - Where did this batch of Scania's come from in 2014?
Thank you!
15097-15113 went to WH for the 97 and 15114-15120 went to PD to join 15121-15124 that was already there since the 205 got the hybrids in 2014. The 262 & 473 got 15074-15095 from PD when they got new hybrids.
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Post by COBO on May 29, 2022 15:29:55 GMT
They can’t right away of course but when the opportunity arises do you think that Stagecoach London will get rid of the non standard fleet that acquired from Tower Transit?
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Post by WH241 on May 29, 2022 15:58:05 GMT
They can’t right away of course but when the opportunity arises do you think that Stagecoach London will get rid of the standard fleet that acquired from Tower Transit? Doubt they will replace the WHs and VHs for the 135 and 262, 473. The same for the 308 which has just started a new contract with MVs.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 29, 2022 16:02:06 GMT
They can’t right away of course but when the opportunity arises do you think that Stagecoach London will get rid of the standard fleet that acquired from Tower Transit? Doubt they will replace the WHs and VHs for the 135 and 262, 473. The same for the 308 which has just started a new contract with MVs. I agree, can't see the VHs/MVs leaving before their time now, especially as Stagecoach already do have their own B5LHs around. Although the WHs depending on their lease agreements could potentially leave when the 262 and 473 are up for tender again, but I can't imagine Stagecoach being in a desperate rush to remove them mid contract. The Streetlites are non-standard in the London fleet but they do have them outside London so aren't a completely alien type either so I can also see them staying until the end.
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Post by DT 11 on May 29, 2022 16:14:39 GMT
Doubt they will replace the WHs and VHs for the 135 and 262, 473. The same for the 308 which has just started a new contract with MVs. I agree, can't see the VHs/MVs leaving before their time now, especially as Stagecoach already do have their own B5LHs around. Although the WHs depending on their lease agreements could potentially leave when the 262 and 473 are up for tender again, but I can't imagine Stagecoach being in a desperate rush to remove them mid contract. The Streetlites are non-standard in the London fleet but they do have them outside London so aren't a completely alien type either so I can also see them staying until the end. Quite honestly I think all the fleet will be retained excluding the 339 batch. The majority of the fleet is similar age to the current fleet. In addition the Scanias have managed to stay in service up until now. It took Go Ahead long enough to withdraw the many Scanias they did not want, in addition funny enough when they took over NP everything at that garage were existing types they had in their fleet, including the Marshalls as BX did have them. The 58 however I can see those VNs being the first to go as the route is coming up for tender. Depending on what happens to the 53s vehicles could easily be a direct replacement for the 58 if retained.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 29, 2022 16:21:06 GMT
I agree, can't see the VHs/MVs leaving before their time now, especially as Stagecoach already do have their own B5LHs around. Although the WHs depending on their lease agreements could potentially leave when the 262 and 473 are up for tender again, but I can't imagine Stagecoach being in a desperate rush to remove them mid contract. The Streetlites are non-standard in the London fleet but they do have them outside London so aren't a completely alien type either so I can also see them staying until the end. Quite honestly I think all the fleet will be retained excluding the 339 batch. The majority of the fleet is similar age to the current fleet. In addition the Scanias have managed to stay in service up until now. It took Go Ahead long enough to withdraw the many Scanias they did not want, in addition funny enough when they took over NP everything at that garage were existing types they had in their fleet, including the Marshalls as BX did have them. The 58 however I can see those VNs being the first to go as the route is coming up for tender. Depending on what happens to the 53s vehicles could easily be a direct replacement for the 58 if retained. Then when route 339 gains its MetroCities, I reckon at least the 65-reg DMs if not indeed the 60-reg will be retained by Stagecoach to replace older Darts and Solos outside London.
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Post by vjaska on May 29, 2022 16:24:57 GMT
I agree, can't see the VHs/MVs leaving before their time now, especially as Stagecoach already do have their own B5LHs around. Although the WHs depending on their lease agreements could potentially leave when the 262 and 473 are up for tender again, but I can't imagine Stagecoach being in a desperate rush to remove them mid contract. The Streetlites are non-standard in the London fleet but they do have them outside London so aren't a completely alien type either so I can also see them staying until the end. Quite honestly I think all the fleet will be retained excluding the 339 batch. The majority of the fleet is similar age to the current fleet. In addition the Scanias have managed to stay in service up until now. It took Go Ahead long enough to withdraw the many Scanias they did not want, in addition funny enough when they took over NP everything at that garage were existing types they had in their fleet, including the Marshalls as BX did have them. The 58 however I can see those VNs being the first to go as the route is coming up for tender. Depending on what happens to the 53s vehicles could easily be a direct replacement for the 58 if retained. And even then, many of the London Scanias remained in the Go-Ahead group outside of London - in fact, they still remain in parts of Essex with Chambers at least
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