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Post by TB123 on Jul 20, 2024 20:58:44 GMT
Agreed. I'd be very surprised to ever see a new bus with a glazed staircase procured for TfL work too, like this one has - I personally prefer the sunroof option anyhow and it allows for T-frame advertising revenues. We had glazed staircase on the LT's and E400 City, first ones. Should have added going forward rather than altogether!
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Post by idk123 on Jul 21, 2024 13:16:53 GMT
Only BZLs on 276 today
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 21, 2024 14:24:38 GMT
It's been like this for quite some time already, no? The route converted fully back in May.
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Post by mondraker275 on Jul 21, 2024 19:09:46 GMT
It's been like this for quite some time already, no? The route converted fully back in May. Yes. The odd one is the 58 which seems to be a very slow process. There seems to be specific duties that have the electrics particularly when they had two max on it. It has slowly increased to 4 with the occasional 5 on the route. One turned up for me and I stayed downstairs and the more I am there the more hideous the layout looks to me. I also note it has 3 fewer seats than the B9TL. I just dont know where the engineering advantage is that is gained by the lower deck arrangement but there must be. Not sure how many seats other new buses have but will be doing some counting.
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 21, 2024 20:20:56 GMT
It's been like this for quite some time already, no? The route converted fully back in May. Yes. The odd one is the 58 which seems to be a very slow process. There seems to be specific duties that have the electrics particularly when they had two max on it. It has slowly increased to 4 with the occasional 5 on the route. One turned up for me and I stayed downstairs and the more I am there the more hideous the layout looks to me. I also note it has 3 fewer seats than the B9TL. I just dont know where the engineering advantage is that is gained by the lower deck arrangement but there must be. Not sure how many seats other new buses have but will be doing some counting. That's because the 58's batch hasn't even arrived yet, the batch for it is the last as I'm pretty sure the 277 is first. As far as I know, the D7's batch are in process of being delivered and being comissioned to enter service, more and more will come slowly, and I assume the 58 will use a mix of the 277 and D7's BZLs until HK is ready to take them on. I just hope it doesn't become a W5 situation where when a route is temporarily using another route's electrics, and doesn't go on its intended route for quite some time. This has been seen with the 339 using one of the W5's Metrocities, I wonder why it still hasn't been sent of to AW?
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Post by vjaska on Jul 21, 2024 21:31:41 GMT
Yes. The odd one is the 58 which seems to be a very slow process. There seems to be specific duties that have the electrics particularly when they had two max on it. It has slowly increased to 4 with the occasional 5 on the route. One turned up for me and I stayed downstairs and the more I am there the more hideous the layout looks to me. I also note it has 3 fewer seats than the B9TL. I just dont know where the engineering advantage is that is gained by the lower deck arrangement but there must be. Not sure how many seats other new buses have but will be doing some counting. That's because the 58's batch hasn't even arrived yet, the batch for it is the last as I'm pretty sure the 277 is first. As far as I know, the D7's batch are in process of being delivered and being comissioned to enter service, more and more will come slowly, and I assume the 58 will use a mix of the 277 and D7's BZLs until HK is ready to take them on. I just hope it doesn't become a W5 situation where when a route is temporarily using another route's electrics, and doesn't go on its intended route for quite some time. This has been seen with the 339 using one of the W5's Metrocities, I wonder why it still hasn't been sent of to AW? The batch being used on the 58 was originally the D7 batch but IIRC (feel free to correct me andyc) these have been swapped so the ones currently on the 58 will remain at LI for the 58
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Post by Leccy86Hybrid on Jul 22, 2024 2:37:29 GMT
82051 will be making an appearance on 86 today, running number 377 leaving the garage at approximately 07:30
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Post by andyc on Jul 22, 2024 3:27:30 GMT
That's because the 58's batch hasn't even arrived yet, the batch for it is the last as I'm pretty sure the 277 is first. As far as I know, the D7's batch are in process of being delivered and being comissioned to enter service, more and more will come slowly, and I assume the 58 will use a mix of the 277 and D7's BZLs until HK is ready to take them on. I just hope it doesn't become a W5 situation where when a route is temporarily using another route's electrics, and doesn't go on its intended route for quite some time. This has been seen with the 339 using one of the W5's Metrocities, I wonder why it still hasn't been sent of to AW? The batch being used on the 58 was originally the D7 batch but IIRC (feel free to correct me andyc) these have been swapped so the ones currently on the 58 will remain at LI for the 58 Correct - the first of the next batch should be arriving shortly, and the first seven of those will be permanently on the 58 as well…
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Post by andyc on Jul 22, 2024 3:28:45 GMT
Yes. The odd one is the 58 which seems to be a very slow process. There seems to be specific duties that have the electrics particularly when they had two max on it. It has slowly increased to 4 with the occasional 5 on the route. One turned up for me and I stayed downstairs and the more I am there the more hideous the layout looks to me. I also note it has 3 fewer seats than the B9TL. I just dont know where the engineering advantage is that is gained by the lower deck arrangement but there must be. Not sure how many seats other new buses have but will be doing some counting. That's because the 58's batch hasn't even arrived yet, the batch for it is the last as I'm pretty sure the 277 is first. As far as I know, the D7's batch are in process of being delivered and being comissioned to enter service, more and more will come slowly, and I assume the 58 will use a mix of the 277 and D7's BZLs until HK is ready to take them on. I just hope it doesn't become a W5 situation where when a route is temporarily using another route's electrics, and doesn't go on its intended route for quite some time. This has been seen with the 339 using one of the W5's Metrocities, I wonder why it still hasn't been sent of to AW? All of the W5 Metrocities are at Walthamstow - they were only temporarily being used to back up the 339.
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Post by mkay315 on Jul 22, 2024 10:21:54 GMT
That's because the 58's batch hasn't even arrived yet, the batch for it is the last as I'm pretty sure the 277 is first. As far as I know, the D7's batch are in process of being delivered and being comissioned to enter service, more and more will come slowly, and I assume the 58 will use a mix of the 277 and D7's BZLs until HK is ready to take them on. I just hope it doesn't become a W5 situation where when a route is temporarily using another route's electrics, and doesn't go on its intended route for quite some time. This has been seen with the 339 using one of the W5's Metrocities, I wonder why it still hasn't been sent of to AW? All of the W5 Metrocities are at Walthamstow - they were only temporarily being used to back up the 339. Quick question, how come YX60DXO is back on the 339? I saw 45001 go past me this morning. I know SM68ERZ has gone off lease and is now somewhere else.
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Post by WH241 on Jul 22, 2024 13:27:18 GMT
Just spotted 82022 at Stratford. This batch have the rear destination displays. The display seem poor in comparison to the Go Ahead Ee’s.
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 22, 2024 14:23:51 GMT
Just spotted 82022 at Stratford. This batch have the rear destination displays. The display seem poor in comparison to the Go Ahead Ee’s. 82022? That’s a 73-reg Electroliner isn’t it, with smart blinds? (And it’s on the 247 at the moment, there’d be a huge problem if it was at Stratford!) 😂
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 22, 2024 15:07:09 GMT
Just spotted 82022 at Stratford. This batch have the rear destination displays. The display seem poor in comparison to the Go Ahead Ee’s. 82022? That’s a 73-reg Electroliner isn’t it, with smart blinds? (And it’s on the 247 at the moment, there’d be a huge problem if it was at Stratford!) 😂 I think he meant 82052
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Post by WH241 on Jul 22, 2024 15:14:40 GMT
Just spotted 82022 at Stratford. This batch have the rear destination displays. The display seem poor in comparison to the Go Ahead Ee’s. 82022? That’s a 73-reg Electroliner isn’t it, with smart blinds? (And it’s on the 247 at the moment, there’d be a huge problem if it was at Stratford!) 😂 haha mixed them up! It was 82051.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 22, 2024 15:41:24 GMT
Just spotted 82022 at Stratford. This batch have the rear destination displays. The display seem poor in comparison to the Go Ahead Ee’s. Would imagine that's down to Go Ahead using Hanover displays which tend to be a lot brighter.
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