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Post by mkay315 on Jul 25, 2024 7:07:28 GMT
I'm hoping someone used photoshop on that image. Why does it look offside though? It's not photoshop I fear, it's the real deal. A dxmn shame!!!
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Post by mondraker275 on Jul 25, 2024 8:03:37 GMT
Seems like another faulty LED screen at the front of the bus! They seem have have issues on these Volvo buses. Granted they have a reputation for not being reliable, but I’ve hardly seen any issues with the Arriva ES’s, TUK’s BYDs or any of Metroline’s (although they also have Volvo BZLs with those screens) I’ve seen quite a few issues with RATP’s ones but they have by far the most of them by quantity Firstly, having the Stagecoach logo there is better than having it blank even though the black font is a bit odd. Even having the logo image also black would have been better. I have seen the repeated blind error on the 417 but '417 to Crystal Palace' was repeated in small font about 8 times (twice on this 58 bus) and it looked like the infamous Bart Simpson repeated lines on the chalkboard punishment.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 25, 2024 8:14:32 GMT
There are a fault batch of blind displays that have affected both this batch and one for another operator. The supplier have been replacing all of the faulty units over the past weeks and there should have been a noticeable improvement - when they sre working they are superb. They really are superb, good that they’re being replaced. These screens should be mandated on all new vehicles, not the Hanovers Surely it's the working blinds that should be mandated and not the broken ones? Hanovers can be programmed to look like the McKennas so it's better to just go with the more reliable displays which is what multiple operators are doing now.
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 25, 2024 11:17:03 GMT
They really are superb, good that they’re being replaced. These screens should be mandated on all new vehicles, not the Hanovers Surely it's the working blinds that should be mandated and not the broken ones? Hanovers can be programmed to look like the McKennas so it's better to just go with the more reliable displays which is what multiple operators are doing now. I kinda of implied it but wasn’t very clear, that if Mobitic/McKenna are replacing and repairing the faulty units so that they’re and function as they should, then yes they should be mandated the Hanovers can be programmed correctly as we’ve seen, but there clearly isn’t the appetite to do it
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Post by cl54 on Jul 25, 2024 15:58:48 GMT
Surely it's the working blinds that should be mandated and not the broken ones? Hanovers can be programmed to look like the McKennas so it's better to just go with the more reliable displays which is what multiple operators are doing now. I kinda of implied it but wasn’t very clear, that if Mobitic/McKenna are replacing and repairing the faulty units so that they’re and function as they should, then yes they should be mandated the Hanovers can be programmed correctly as we’ve seen, but there clearly isn’t the appetite to do it Doug Rose did the first 5 Hanover displays which were almost perfect. Since then they have done their own thing despite being able to buy in his skills. Some operators have also added their own modifications with poor results. McKenna have the smart blind layouts that he produced and they seem to be using them for new LED displays. For some reason they are using larger and thicker route numbers which is a shame.
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Post by mark on Jul 25, 2024 20:32:14 GMT
I kinda of implied it but wasn’t very clear, that if Mobitic/McKenna are replacing and repairing the faulty units so that they’re and function as they should, then yes they should be mandated the Hanovers can be programmed correctly as we’ve seen, but there clearly isn’t the appetite to do it Doug Rose did the first 5 Hanover displays which were almost perfect. Since then they have done their own thing despite being able to buy in his skills. Some operators have also added their own modifications with poor results. McKenna have the smart blind layouts that he produced and they seem to be using them for new LED displays. For some reason they are using larger and thicker route numbers which is a shame. To be honest I doubt the average passenger notices (or cares) about the typeface on destination displays!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 25, 2024 20:35:10 GMT
Surely it's the working blinds that should be mandated and not the broken ones? Hanovers can be programmed to look like the McKennas so it's better to just go with the more reliable displays which is what multiple operators are doing now. I kinda of implied it but wasn’t very clear, that if Mobitic/McKenna are replacing and repairing the faulty units so that they’re and function as they should, then yes they should be mandated the Hanovers can be programmed correctly as we’ve seen, but there clearly isn’t the appetite to do it However in all honesty I think the Hanover fonts are more than adequate by this point. The choices are a McKenna display that seems to be unreliable or a Hanover one that's still extremely legible, far brighter and a lot more reliable. At Stratford if you see the 262s blinds next to the 276s blinds they're a world apart and the sets on the 262 are a lot easier to read and make out because they are far brighter and also work a lot more of the time.
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Post by cl54 on Jul 25, 2024 21:06:45 GMT
I kinda of implied it but wasn’t very clear, that if Mobitic/McKenna are replacing and repairing the faulty units so that they’re and function as they should, then yes they should be mandated the Hanovers can be programmed correctly as we’ve seen, but there clearly isn’t the appetite to do it However in all honesty I think the Hanover fonts are more than adequate by this point. The choices are a McKenna display that seems to be unreliable or a Hanover one that's still extremely legible, far brighter and a lot more reliable. At Stratford if you see the 262s blinds next to the 276s blinds they're a world apart and the sets on the 262 are a lot easier to read and make out because they are far brighter and also work a lot more of the time. There are plenty of McKenna/Mobitec displays that are working perfectly. There are definitely problems with the buses on the 276 where they are interfacing the external displays with 2 internal LCD displays from different sources and failing.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 25, 2024 21:19:51 GMT
However in all honesty I think the Hanover fonts are more than adequate by this point. The choices are a McKenna display that seems to be unreliable or a Hanover one that's still extremely legible, far brighter and a lot more reliable. At Stratford if you see the 262s blinds next to the 276s blinds they're a world apart and the sets on the 262 are a lot easier to read and make out because they are far brighter and also work a lot more of the time. There are plenty of McKenna/Mobitec displays that are working perfectly. There are definitely problems with the buses on the 276 where they are interfacing the external displays with 2 internal LCD displays from different sources and failing. it's been mentioned previously there is a fault with the displays, which the manufacturer are replacing
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 25, 2024 22:03:19 GMT
Personally I think it was better off without the logo, if THIS is the way they put it... That looks ridiculous if it is real. ServerKing can do a better job photo shopping it. Can't belive they used black text for it and it's offset... I just love their blinds at the moment. I saw a 276 to Stoke New the other day Hopefully BZLs on the 243 won't have these issues...
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Post by yunus on Jul 26, 2024 3:25:03 GMT
Not complaining but NS must be having some serious issues with chargers or the buses itself- No EVs on the N86!
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Post by va59 on Jul 26, 2024 5:11:35 GMT
Are they testing out new displays on iBus? I was on a BZL 58 the other day and the display was completely different to what I've seen before. It had bus stop list, however, it was showing the bus stops for route for 173 and the time was completely wrong too. Is this the implementation of a new look to iBus?
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Post by mondraker275 on Jul 26, 2024 7:10:09 GMT
That looks ridiculous if it is real. ServerKing can do a better job photo shopping it. Can't belive they used black text for it and it's offset... I just love their blinds at the moment. I saw a 276 to Stoke New the other day Hopefully BZLs on the 243 won't have these issues... Yes can see it now: "2 at loo" or even " 3 Water" .
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 26, 2024 7:37:32 GMT
Can't belive they used black text for it and it's offset... I just love their blinds at the moment. I saw a 276 to Stoke New the other day Hopefully BZLs on the 243 won't have these issues... Yes can see it now: "2 at loo" or even " 3 Water" . Luckily none of the AR routes go to Arsenal, would be a disaster if the ‘nal’ got missed off 🤣
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Post by WH241 on Jul 26, 2024 8:50:21 GMT
Not complaining but NS must be having some serious issues with chargers or the buses itself- No EVs on the N86! Serious issues or just focusing on ensuring a full electric run out for the day route. What would you rather electrics on a day route causing less pollution when more cars are on the road or diesels on the night route when they will cause less pollution? I am not saying this is the reason but I would rather a full / majority electric allocation on a high PVR day route over ensuring a night allocation is electric. There could also be other logistical reasons like drivers covering duties who are not night trained.
Sometimes if feels you are looking for faults. As someone who is pro diesels you seem very contradictory on occasions.
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