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Post by yunus on Jul 26, 2024 8:59:48 GMT
Not complaining but NS must be having some serious issues with chargers or the buses itself- No EVs on the N86! Serious issues or just focusing on ensuring a full electric run out for the day route. What would you rather electrics on a day route causing less pollution when more cars are on the road or diesels on the night route when they will cause less pollution? I am not saying this is the reason but I would rather a full / majority electric allocation on a high PVR day route over ensuring a night allocation is electric. There could also be other logistical reasons like drivers covering duties who are not night trained.
Sometimes if feels you are looking for faults. As someone who is pro diesels you seem very contradictory on occasions.
The N199 manages (bar one sole bus that ends the last) which is a much longer route so I do not see why the N86 should not. You do however have a point on that drivers that may not be type trained who could cover a shift. I am pro Diesel ofc but that does not mean the allocated buses should not be on any route. I guess it will be sorted eventually. The N133 still has yet to see an EV under TUK operation.
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Post by WH241 on Jul 26, 2024 9:15:27 GMT
Serious issues or just focusing on ensuring a full electric run out for the day route. What would you rather electrics on a day route causing less pollution when more cars are on the road or diesels on the night route when they will cause less pollution? I am not saying this is the reason but I would rather a full / majority electric allocation on a high PVR day route over ensuring a night allocation is electric. There could also be other logistical reasons like drivers covering duties who are not night trained.
Sometimes if feels you are looking for faults. As someone who is pro diesels you seem very contradictory on occasions.
The N199 manages (bar one sole bus that ends the last) which is a much longer route so I do not see why the N86 should not. You do however have a point on that drivers that may not be type trained who could cover a shift. I am pro Diesel ofc but that does not mean the allocated buses should not be on any route. I guess it will be sorted eventually. The N133 still has yet to see an EV under TUK operation. The 199 has a day PVR of 12 the 86 needs 30 buses for the day run out so imagine the main focus is ensuring enough bus are charged for that!
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 26, 2024 9:15:46 GMT
Serious issues or just focusing on ensuring a full electric run out for the day route. What would you rather electrics on a day route causing less pollution when more cars are on the road or diesels on the night route when they will cause less pollution? I am not saying this is the reason but I would rather a full / majority electric allocation on a high PVR day route over ensuring a night allocation is electric. There could also be other logistical reasons like drivers covering duties who are not night trained.
Sometimes if feels you are looking for faults. As someone who is pro diesels you seem very contradictory on occasions.
The N199 manages (bar one sole bus that ends the last) which is a much longer route so I do not see why the N86 should not. You do however have a point on that drivers that may not be type trained who could cover a shift. I am pro Diesel ofc but that does not mean the allocated buses should not be on any route. I guess it will be sorted eventually. The N133 still has yet to see an EV under TUK operation. I doubt it's serious "charger issues." One of the issues probably affecting the N86, which doesn't affect the N199, is 5 or 6 of its vehicles are parked at LI overnight, and the relatively high frequency of the 86 in the evening, meaning there's less electric vehicles around.
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Post by (WHV76) BF65 WJZ on Jul 26, 2024 9:33:09 GMT
The N133 still has yet to see an EV under TUK operation. According to LVF AB 3036 LV73FDP 30-03-2024 01:52 01:52 AB 3037 LV73FDU 21-01-2024 01:56 04:19 AB 3040 LV73FHM 21-01-2024 02:17 04:46 AB 3041 LV73FHN 01-07-2024 02:15 04:15 AB 3043 LV73FHP 28-01-2024 02:15 04:30 AB 3046 LV73FHT 26-02-2024 02:00 04:33 AB 3055 LV24EUO 17-06-2024 02:30 04:39 AB 3057 LV24EUR 08-06-2024 01:45 05:15 AB 3070 LV24EWG 21-06-2024 01:30 02:09 AB 3071 LV24EWH 15-05-2024 02:15 03:35 AB 3101 LV24VOG 26-05-2024 02:00 04:32
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 26, 2024 11:09:27 GMT
Yes can see it now: "2 at loo" or even " 3 Water" . Luckily none of the AR routes go to Arsenal, would be a disaster if the ‘nal’ got missed off 🤣 Looool some BZLs may escape onto the 259, so who knows how trips to King's Cro will be? ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by MMS2001 on Jul 26, 2024 14:01:45 GMT
2 Volvo BZLs DD have turned up at LI today. LJ24 ZPN 86216 LJ24 ZPR ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? Forgive me but can someone remind me what route these buses are for?
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Post by eal1ngvolvo483 on Jul 26, 2024 14:29:07 GMT
2 Volvo BZLs DD have turned up at LI today. LJ24 ZPN 86216 LJ24 ZPR ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? Forgive me but can someone remind me what route these buses are for? I believe these are intended for 277
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 26, 2024 14:31:45 GMT
2 Volvo BZLs DD have turned up at LI today. LJ24 ZPN 86216 LJ24 ZPR ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? Forgive me but can someone remind me what route these buses are for? LJ24ZPR is 86219. 86208-225 should be the 277 batch plus the W13 school DD
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Post by ADH45258 on Jul 26, 2024 14:49:46 GMT
2 Volvo BZLs DD have turned up at LI today. LJ24 ZPN 86216 LJ24 ZPR ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? Forgive me but can someone remind me what route these buses are for? LJ24ZPR is 86219. 86208-225 should be the 277 batch plus the W13 school DD Has an SD order been announced for the W13 yet?
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 26, 2024 14:52:58 GMT
LJ24ZPR is 86219. 86208-225 should be the 277 batch plus the W13 school DD Has an SD order been announced for the W13 yet? Yeah BZLs (pretty certain anyway), along with E100EVs for the B14 and W12 I can’t trace it but it was in that post where someone who works for Stagecoach said it was 8.5 vehicles for the B14 and W12, and 10.8s for the W13/W14, which then later transpired to be E100s and BZLs
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Post by vjaska on Jul 26, 2024 15:10:12 GMT
Has an SD order been announced for the W13 yet? Yeah BZLs (pretty certain anyway), along with E100EVs for the B14 and W12 I can’t trace it but it was in that post where someone who works for Stagecoach said it was 8.5 vehicles for the B14 and W12, and 10.8a for the W13/W14, which then later transpired to be E100s and BZLs I believe only the B14, SL3 & W12 orders were announced - all three were announced via a mix of ADL article & andyc mentioning W12 length of new buses. Unless I've missed something, haven't seen anything regarding the W13 or W14 other confirmation that whatever they order will be around the 10.8m length for both routes - again, thanks to andyc for sharing that aspect. If I was to guess though, I think your pretty certain estimate of BZL's is probably right ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Regarding the decker BZL's, the W13 is to receive it's own one numbered 86226 if I've understood the post on here detailing the allocations right?
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Post by WH241 on Jul 26, 2024 16:44:24 GMT
One of the new Volvos on the 276 has been involved in some type of incident at Ordnance Road in Canning Town. When I passed at 6pm it looked like it had broken down turning into the road from Barking Road but soon after 3 fire engines were in attendance. I couldn’t see any visible signs of a fire so not sure what’s happened. The police have closed off the road. Going to guess the bus involved in the above was 66037 as this bus has been off the road until today.
I do wonder what happened as there was no signs of a fire.
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 28, 2024 9:06:35 GMT
Currently on 86181 on the 58. One word: exceptional.
By far and away my favourite electric double decker so far (from a passenger POV)
I know remarks have been made about whether the BZL DD would be sluggish or not due to its relatively low power, I can categorically tell you now that it isn’t. The driver is flooring it and it’s flying
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Post by DW221 - LJ09 SUH on Jul 28, 2024 9:17:15 GMT
I have to say the BZLs on the 58 arent so bad, allbeit boring. But at least the fans on it keep it cooler in the hot weather!
Definitely will miss the B9s alot, having been through 3 operators at the same garage. (First, Tower & Stagey) But lets just enjoy them while we can
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Post by COBO on Jul 28, 2024 13:57:21 GMT
Did the 25 have any Articulated Scania Omncitys during it bendy bus days?
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