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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 6, 2024 22:57:54 GMT
The 97 has... - 21 Wright Streetdecks - 2 Volvo B5LH Alexander Dennis E400 MMCs
As the route has a PVR of 20 buses and has 3 spares, (being 1 Streetdeck and 2 MMCs), does this mean that it has reached a full allocation of hybrids?
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Post by DW221 on Aug 6, 2024 23:45:05 GMT
The 97 has... - 21 Wright Streetdecks - 2 Volvo B5LH Alexander Dennis E400 MMCs As the route has a PVR of 20 buses and has 3 spares, (being 1 Streetdeck and 2 MMCs), does this mean that it has reached a full allocation of hybrids? well in theory it should have done! But in reality no it hasnt, the 97 has had as much as 7 E40D’s on some days recently… Realistically speaking i doubt it’ll run daily with full hybrids anytime soon considering how theres always StreetDecks being VOR.
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Post by adl on Aug 7, 2024 6:53:27 GMT
I thought the 499 only had a double decker trip during term time but at 10347 is currently on route to Romford, Queens Hospital.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 7, 2024 7:38:16 GMT
Not sure if this applies to Stagecoach LONDON, but... I know the notices makes no reference to the uniform but have only really started to notice the new (Ish) one in recent months. I am talking about the Polo Shirt style one. When did this get introduced?
The new uniforms have been rolled out over the last year or two. Fortunately the colours fit with the new branding as well so the uniforms do not need to be changed again. What I am hearing is that the 2020 rebrand is difficult ro re-apply and keep tidy when panels need to be replaced or retouched, especilally the vulnerable low-level ones.
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Post by wirewiper on Aug 7, 2024 7:40:04 GMT
Not sure if this applies to Stagecoach LONDON, but... This is the new non-London spec.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 7, 2024 8:46:08 GMT
The 97 has... - 21 Wright Streetdecks - 2 Volvo B5LH Alexander Dennis E400 MMCs As the route has a PVR of 20 buses and has 3 spares, (being 1 Streetdeck and 2 MMCs), does this mean that it has reached a full allocation of hybrids? well in theory it should have done! But in reality no it hasnt, the 97 has had as much as 7 E40D’s on some days recently… Realistically speaking i doubt it’ll run daily with full hybrids anytime soon considering how theres always StreetDecks being VOR. I imagine the 97 will end up similar to the 262 / 473 when it used Streetdecks and will need constant support with other buses. Having said that the 262 and 473 did see an improvement towards the end of the tender with less VN's supporting the Streetdecks.
Having said all that today appears to be a good day on the 97 with only 2 E400s out at the moment.
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Post by WH241 on Aug 7, 2024 8:50:22 GMT
I thought the 499 only had a double decker trip during term time but at 10347 is currently on route to Romford, Queens Hospital. Most likely just an odd working these happen from time to time. The W13 also had a double decker out this morning from 5.30am to 8.10am.
Talking of odd workings 45003 is on the 385! Not sure if this is the first electric on the route?
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Post by eal1ngvolvo483 on Aug 7, 2024 9:25:41 GMT
I thought the 499 only had a double decker trip during term time but at 10347 is currently on route to Romford, Queens Hospital. Most likely just an odd working these happen from time to time. The W13 also had a double decker out this morning from 5.30am to 8.10am.
Talking of odd workings 45003 is on the 385! Not sure if this is the first electric on the route? Also quite rare for 2 buses to run on 385 at once I believe
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Post by adl on Aug 7, 2024 9:36:36 GMT
Most likely just an odd working these happen from time to time. The W13 also had a double decker out this morning from 5.30am to 8.10am.
Talking of odd workings 45003 is on the 385! Not sure if this is the first electric on the route? Also quite rare for 2 buses to run on 385 at once I believe There’s not, 45003 was subbed and replaced by the usual 37720 at 10, they didn’t run together.
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Post by dace2 on Aug 7, 2024 10:42:23 GMT
The 97 has... - 21 Wright Streetdecks - 2 Volvo B5LH Alexander Dennis E400 MMCs As the route has a PVR of 20 buses and has 3 spares, (being 1 Streetdeck and 2 MMCs), does this mean that it has reached a full allocation of hybrids? You got it correct. They're suppose to be going then but yesterday explains it all. There was 4 E400s, 1 Volvo E400H and 1 Evoseti and 14 Streetdecks. Even in April, there was at least 5 diesels (2 Scannias and 3 E400s) instead of 2. The amount of Streetdecks yesterday was surprising.
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 7, 2024 11:18:20 GMT
Not sure if this applies to Stagecoach LONDON, but... Hopefully they get rid of that crap livery and change the logo and font type. Looks like a variation of their current font type, but the "Windows 10 frozen" circle has gone. I guess more will be revealed as time goes on. I assume it means a more standard livery outside London and not so much of the regional / local liveries (though when I was up in Newcastle, I saw plenty of buses in the old livery) I wonder how it will look on London red?
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Post by DW221 on Aug 7, 2024 12:15:33 GMT
well in theory it should have done! But in reality no it hasnt, the 97 has had as much as 7 E40D’s on some days recently… Realistically speaking i doubt it’ll run daily with full hybrids anytime soon considering how theres always StreetDecks being VOR. I imagine the 97 will end up similar to the 262 / 473 when it used Streetdecks and will need constant support with other buses. Having said that the 262 and 473 did see an improvement towards the end of the tender with less VN's supporting the Streetdecks.
Having said all that today appears to be a good day on the 97 with only 2 E400s out at the moment.
dont forget other hybrids like Evoseti’s and G3s also going on 262/473 fairly often!
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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 7, 2024 14:16:39 GMT
The 97 has... - 21 Wright Streetdecks - 2 Volvo B5LH Alexander Dennis E400 MMCs As the route has a PVR of 20 buses and has 3 spares, (being 1 Streetdeck and 2 MMCs), does this mean that it has reached a full allocation of hybrids? You got it correct. They're suppose to be going then but yesterday explains it all. There was 4 E400s, 1 Volvo E400H and 1 Evoseti and 14 Streetdecks. Even in April, there was at least 5 diesels (2 Scannias and 3 E400s) instead of 2. The amount of Streetdecks yesterday was surprising. I see. So from what I'm getting, on paper it has reached a full hybrid allocation but in reality the E400s and other hybrids at the garage will always have to support due to the unreliability of the Streetdecks. I'm more surprised they even managed the hills at Chingford, but it is what it is!
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Post by va59 on Aug 7, 2024 14:42:43 GMT
Open to corrections here but I believe the allocations are: 58:86181-86197 D7:86198-86207 277/N277:86208-86225 And then 86226 for W13 DD Allocation As for which HK route is electrified first, I would think it would be D7, as the 277 needs to move in from WH. I guess it also depends when WH is closing in 2025 (I am assuming that’s now confirmed) as the 323 and 277 might take priority as they will be moving into HK. Just out of interest and this may have already been discussed but is this a trial of the new type of display? Note that this was on the 58 on the new BZL showing the wrong route and even moreso, the wrong time but I haven't seen it on another bus since?
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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 7, 2024 15:07:57 GMT
I guess it also depends when WH is closing in 2025 (I am assuming that’s now confirmed) as the 323 and 277 might take priority as they will be moving into HK. Just out of interest and this may have already been discussed but is this a trial of the new type of display? Note that this was on the 58 on the new BZL showing the wrong route and even moreso, the wrong time but I haven't seen it on another bus since? View AttachmentI've seen it like that on the Electroliners displaying the same thing, I believe it was part of the 199 allocation but I cannot confirm but it could just be a trial!
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