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Post by adl on Sept 17, 2024 10:46:06 GMT
Two single decks on the 165 today, 36526 and 36604. It's the first time since the route was converted to DD (end of last month) that a single deck has been on the route - and now there's 2. Already overcrowded as anything, bus left people behind beyond Romford today Same old 165 with single deckers.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 17, 2024 12:47:24 GMT
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Post by adl on Sept 17, 2024 14:23:11 GMT
Seen both single decks on the 165 at various times today all of the times both SDs have been completely full near to the door, even driving last stops I think TFL will be getting a few complaints today as various passengers at stops have complained about the single decks return , at this point they’re causing their own issues they know SDs aren’t suitable…
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 17, 2024 15:40:07 GMT
d*mn... I was hoping for a Laptop style notebook
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Post by joefrombow on Sept 17, 2024 15:57:46 GMT
12517 showing 26 Hackney Wick on the back of a Dynes Wrecker heading up the M11 at Loughton at about 15.00 today had a VOR paper in the window .
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Post by WH241 on Sept 17, 2024 16:46:42 GMT
Seen both single decks on the 165 at various times today all of the times both SDs have been completely full near to the door, even driving last stops I think TFL will be getting a few complaints today as various passengers at stops have complained about the single decks return , at this point they’re causing their own issues they know SDs aren’t suitable… I admire your passion and enthusiasm for the 165 but I am doubtful most passengers would be going home to fire off angry emails to TfL about this. If the 310 had not come about the 165 would still be running with its existing buses.
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Post by adl on Sept 17, 2024 17:08:28 GMT
I could be just being silly here but does anyone know where the 193 would fail a route test using double deckers, I was on a 10.9m (Ex Route 165) and did the entire route even crossing paths with the other 10.8m on route and it hasn’t struggled anywhere even on the hail and ride sections and surely double decks aren’t that much wider than a single deck? It doesn’t go under any low bridges or areas with weight restrictions. Before anyone says no I’m not suggesting it should be a double deck route more wondering why it’s unable to take them although if it can take 10.9m buses it should given TFL recently conducted capacity review on route and generally the 9.7m are always filled .
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Post by WH241 on Sept 17, 2024 17:34:12 GMT
Optare Solo 47916 has been kept as an engineering spare for 385s & W5s 47809 has resurfaced and is out on the 379.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 17, 2024 17:48:53 GMT
I could be just being silly here but does anyone know where the 193 would fail a route test using double deckers, I was on a 10.9m (Ex Route 165) and did the entire route even crossing paths with the other 10.8m on route and it hasn’t struggled anywhere even on the hail and ride sections and surely double decks aren’t that much wider than a single deck? It doesn’t go under any low bridges or areas with weight restrictions. Before anyone says no I’m not suggesting it should be a double deck route more wondering why it’s unable to take them although if it can take 10.9m buses it should given TFL recently conducted capacity review on route and generally the 9.7m are always filled . Double decks are a bit more wider than single deckers and from memory, there is a particular section of the 193 that is quite narrow (Bevan Way having looked it up) - not saying it can't be done. It could also be that residents may block such a move although the 193 did use T's in the past but no idea if that's over the current routing or not. It should be noted that because one or two 10.9m bus can run round an entire route doesn't mean that route can automatically run with an entire allocation where buses are constantly meeting. Again, not saying it isn't possible either.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 17, 2024 17:51:35 GMT
Optare Solo 47916 has been kept as an engineering spare for 385s & W5s 47809 has resurfaced and is out on the 379. Lovely first time working!
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Post by adl on Sept 17, 2024 18:09:08 GMT
I could be just being silly here but does anyone know where the 193 would fail a route test using double deckers, I was on a 10.9m (Ex Route 165) and did the entire route even crossing paths with the other 10.8m on route and it hasn’t struggled anywhere even on the hail and ride sections and surely double decks aren’t that much wider than a single deck? It doesn’t go under any low bridges or areas with weight restrictions. Before anyone says no I’m not suggesting it should be a double deck route more wondering why it’s unable to take them although if it can take 10.9m buses it should given TFL recently conducted capacity review on route and generally the 9.7m are always filled . Double decks are a bit more wider than single deckers and from memory, there is a particular section of the 193 that is quite narrow (Bevan Way having looked it up) - not saying it can't be done. It could also be that residents may block such a move although the 193 did use T's in the past but no idea if that's over the current routing or not. It should be noted that because one or two 10.9m bus can run round an entire route doesn't mean that route can automatically run with an entire allocation where buses are constantly meeting. Again, not saying it isn't possible either. I mean I think it should cleared as today there’s 2 however the other day there was all 4 of the Ex 165 MMCs on route, which is almost half the allocation. They also mate daily appearances.
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Post by londontravel on Sept 17, 2024 18:18:29 GMT
I could be just being silly here but does anyone know where the 193 would fail a route test using double deckers, I was on a 10.9m (Ex Route 165) and did the entire route even crossing paths with the other 10.8m on route and it hasn’t struggled anywhere even on the hail and ride sections and surely double decks aren’t that much wider than a single deck? It doesn’t go under any low bridges or areas with weight restrictions. Before anyone says no I’m not suggesting it should be a double deck route more wondering why it’s unable to take them although if it can take 10.9m buses it should given TFL recently conducted capacity review on route and generally the 9.7m are always filled . Double decks are a bit more wider than single deckers and from memory, there is a particular section of the 193 that is quite narrow (Bevan Way having looked it up) - not saying it can't be done. It could also be that residents may block such a move although the 193 did use T's in the past but no idea if that's over the current routing or not. It should be noted that because one or two 10.9m bus can run round an entire route doesn't mean that route can automatically run with an entire allocation where buses are constantly meeting. Again, not saying it isn't possible either. Years ago the 193 when it operated with double deckers (I remember when it was Routemasters) used to run via Roneo Corner and Hornchurch Road.
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Post by tbmlondon on Sept 17, 2024 20:11:17 GMT
A number of 74-reg Streetdeck Electroliners, 82065-82, have been listed on Bus Lists on the Web.
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Post by ! ALEED on Sept 17, 2024 20:15:30 GMT
A number of 74-reg Streetdeck Electroliners, 82065-82, have been listed on Bus Lists on the Web. Interesting, can't wait to see the electroliners on the 257! Although it will take a long time as the garage is yet to be electrified.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 17, 2024 20:22:57 GMT
I could be just being silly here but does anyone know where the 193 would fail a route test using double deckers, I was on a 10.9m (Ex Route 165) and did the entire route even crossing paths with the other 10.8m on route and it hasn’t struggled anywhere even on the hail and ride sections and surely double decks aren’t that much wider than a single deck? It doesn’t go under any low bridges or areas with weight restrictions. Before anyone says no I’m not suggesting it should be a double deck route more wondering why it’s unable to take them although if it can take 10.9m buses it should given TFL recently conducted capacity review on route and generally the 9.7m are always filled . Probably Hail and Ride section between Romford and Hornchurch would be a bit of an issue for deckers. Plus, there's not enough demand for deckers on the 193
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