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Post by andyc on Oct 2, 2024 19:45:07 GMT
Exactly this. I think it’s pretty safe to assume the electrics on the 47 are temporary so any move of existing buses from the 47 would eventually need to return. Seeing all sorts of rumours and suggestions online when for me it’s just a stop gap to save the buses gathering dust. Hopefully by then the 58 gets converted fully to electric, which potentially gives the Evosetis spare to the 97 by then, similar to how 25 was run There is only one spare evoseti - 13148 was the only one allocated to the 58. The E400s are there as a general back up to the 21 Streetdecks and 2 Volvo/MMC. They will likely stay covering for the refurbishment on those buses which is due over the coming weeks/months. The 678 is gaining EVs for the time being, which gives some Volvo/Wrights as spare which will stay to assist as well. |
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Post by adl on Oct 2, 2024 20:34:59 GMT
Hopefully by then the 58 gets converted fully to electric, which potentially gives the Evosetis spare to the 97 by then, similar to how 25 was run There is only one spare evoseti - 13148 was the only one allocated to the 58. The E400s are there as a general back up to the 21 Streetdecks and 2 Volvo/MMC. They will likely stay covering for the refurbishment on those buses which is due over the coming weeks/months. The 678 is gaining EVs for the time being, which gives some Volvo/Wrights as spare which will stay to assist as well. That'd explain why more than the required amount BZLs have entered service at LI. I guess Stagecoach like Arriva have loads of EVs incoming and Stagecoach already have quite a few garages wired up so can put them to use in other places such as LI, NS and TL for the 678, 247 and 47 respectively. |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 2, 2024 21:21:15 GMT
Is the 678 allocated 17 reg Hybrids on paper? I know in practice it was nearly always VNs before the electrics became common.
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Post by atb123 on Oct 2, 2024 22:13:25 GMT
Is the 678 allocated 17 reg Hybrids on paper? I know in practice it was nearly always VNs before the electrics became common. Yes the Evosetis |
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Post by andyc on Oct 2, 2024 22:20:26 GMT
Is the 678 allocated 17 reg Hybrids on paper? I know in practice it was nearly always VNs before the electrics became common. Yes the Evosetis 678 is Volvo/Wright. The evocetis are 135 & 308. |
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 2, 2024 22:56:13 GMT
678 is Volvo/Wright. The evocetis are 135 & 308. No the Wright G3 B5LHs (13121-13137) are definitely allocated to the 135. Evosetis are just often strayed onto the route. |
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 2, 2024 23:05:40 GMT
Exactly this. I think it’s pretty safe to assume the electrics on the 47 are temporary so any move of existing buses from the 47 would eventually need to return. Seeing all sorts of rumours and suggestions online when for me it’s just a stop gap to save the buses gathering dust. Hopefully by then the 58 gets converted fully to electric, which potentially gives the Evosetis spare to the 97 by then, similar to how 25 was run I wonder if the Evosetis will also need to be refurbished any time soon? If HK still needs some time for electrification, I wonder if the other BZLs for the 277/D7 will also be temporary used at LI for another route like the 135 or 308, so as to cover the B5LHs for refurbishments (there are also still 5 of the 135 batch of Wright B5LHs to be done - they're now doing it one at a time). |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2024 0:01:42 GMT
678 is Volvo/Wright. The evocetis are 135 & 308. No the Wright G3 B5LHs (13121-13137) are definitely allocated to the 135. Evosetis are just often strayed onto the route. For some reason, since Stagecoach took over the ex Tower Transit and CT Plus ops, they've started to heavily change the allocations quite a bit as the 135 was certainly allocated the Gemini3 B5LH's under Tower Transit. andyc has been very reliable (and helpful too) so I've no reason to doubt him if he says that's the allocations but what it does mean is my fleet list is struggling to keep up with these changes to those particular garages. What I'm confused about is what are the remainder of the Gemini B5LH's (not allocated to the 678) allocated too if not the 135? |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 3, 2024 0:27:25 GMT
to be fair, a couple of B5LHs could come over to LI temporarily to kick start the refurbishment programme of the 97s Streetdecks The 47s Volvos have not been refurbished yet either so perhaps this is the reason why some EVs are being introduced to cover them it fits perfectly I would say… completely forgot about the 47 and 177 refurbs |
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 3, 2024 1:11:46 GMT
No the Wright G3 B5LHs (13121-13137) are definitely allocated to the 135. Evosetis are just often strayed onto the route. For some reason, since Stagecoach took over the ex Tower Transit and CT Plus ops, they've started to heavily change the allocations quite a bit as the 135 was certainly allocated the Gemini3 B5LH's under Tower Transit. andyc has been very reliable (and helpful too) so I've no reason to doubt him if he says that's the allocations but what it does mean is my fleet list is struggling to keep up with these changes to those particular garages. What I'm confused about is what are the remainder of the Gemini B5LH's (not allocated to the 678) allocated too if not the 135? Stagecoach have 17 VHs, which exactly covers the 135. Then the Evosetis should be for the 308 and 678, plus 1 spare from the 58. |
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Post by vjaska on Oct 3, 2024 2:13:17 GMT
For some reason, since Stagecoach took over the ex Tower Transit and CT Plus ops, they've started to heavily change the allocations quite a bit as the 135 was certainly allocated the Gemini3 B5LH's under Tower Transit. andyc has been very reliable (and helpful too) so I've no reason to doubt him if he says that's the allocations but what it does mean is my fleet list is struggling to keep up with these changes to those particular garages. What I'm confused about is what are the remainder of the Gemini B5LH's (not allocated to the 678) allocated too if not the 135? Stagecoach have 17 VHs, which exactly covers the 135. Then the Evosetis should be for the 308 and 678, plus 1 spare from the 58. I think you need to re-read my post again. |
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Post by andyc on Oct 3, 2024 6:54:59 GMT
678 is Volvo/Wright. The evocetis are 135 & 308. No the Wright G3 B5LHs (13121-13137) are definitely allocated to the 135. Evosetis are just often strayed onto the route. Correcting myself, you are indeed correct 135 is Volvo/Wrihht 678/308 are Evosetis… 13148 is spare… |
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 3, 2024 6:58:35 GMT
No the Wright G3 B5LHs (13121-13137) are definitely allocated to the 135. Evosetis are just often strayed onto the route. For some reason, since Stagecoach took over the ex Tower Transit and CT Plus ops, they've started to heavily change the allocations quite a bit as the 135 was certainly allocated the Gemini3 B5LH's under Tower Transit. andyc has been very reliable (and helpful too) so I've no reason to doubt him if he says that's the allocations but what it does mean is my fleet list is struggling to keep up with these changes to those particular garages. What I'm confused about is what are the remainder of the Gemini B5LH's (not allocated to the 678) allocated too if not the 135? I see - in that case I'm tempted to know what the rest of the Geminis are allocated too, as the 678 surely doesn't take the whole batch of 17 vehicles. Also these Geminis have been undergoing refurbishment recently, which are long overdue for both the 135 and 678 since they're both almost half way into their contracts already. |
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Post by cl54 on Oct 3, 2024 7:00:41 GMT
I was taken back in time yesterday.
Got on a 180 in Woolwich with an AW garage code on the side.
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Post by WH241 on Oct 3, 2024 8:59:50 GMT
Hopefully by then the 58 gets converted fully to electric, which potentially gives the Evosetis spare to the 97 by then, similar to how 25 was run I wonder if the Evosetis will also need to be refurbished any time soon? If HK still needs some time for electrification, I wonder if the other BZLs for the 277/D7 will also be temporary used at LI for another route like the 135 or 308, so as to cover the B5LHs for refurbishments (there are also still 5 of the 135 batch of Wright B5LHs to be done - they're now doing it one at a time). Haven’t all the Evosetis been done? Were they not done for the 308 tender? |
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