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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 23, 2023 12:43:57 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 23, 2023 13:00:21 GMT
Seems the UK front door only version will be 9.5m in length. Why Pelican not mentioning this on their website, only E10 and E12 shown. Ebusco, range is aimed at mainland Europe with buses the the 12-18m range ... which we seem to be incapable of operating.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 23, 2023 13:07:19 GMT
Could be longer Metrocitys like the 312 ones but a bit smaller. We don't want those South of the River. Needs to be something of heavyweight construction. I don't see the issue with more Metrocity's personally though I don't think they'll ultimately go for them IMO. Definitely don't see why heavyweight construction is a important requirement - reliability and passenger satisfaction should be the main concerns
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 23, 2023 13:37:28 GMT
We don't want those South of the River. Needs to be something of heavyweight construction. I don't see the issue with more Metrocity's personally though I don't think they'll ultimately go for them IMO. Definitely don't see why heavyweight construction is a important requirement - reliability and passenger satisfaction should be the main concerns OK which is the better vehicle, a 10yo midi E200/Streetlite/Versa, or a 10yo B7RLE/Citaro/OK let's throw Tempo in there. Consider reliability and passenger safistfaction. Given you an easy target there, was not really sure what the 3rd most popular heavyweight was in 2013. Consider battery buses are heavier, so chassis stress will be higher.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Oct 23, 2023 14:10:25 GMT
I don't see the issue with more Metrocity's personally though I don't think they'll ultimately go for them IMO. Definitely don't see why heavyweight construction is a important requirement - reliability and passenger satisfaction should be the main concerns OK which is the better vehicle, a 10yo midi E200/Streetlite/Versa, or a 10yo B7RLE/Citaro/OK let's throw Tempo in there. Consider reliability and passenger safistfaction. Given you an easy target there, was not really sure what the 3rd most popular heavyweight was in 2013. Consider battery buses are heavier, so chassis stress will be higher. A 10 year old B7RLE can be fairly rattly. I recently travelled on one of the 108s Citaros from Lewisham to Bow Church and wasn't really impressed with it.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 23, 2023 14:28:04 GMT
OK which is the better vehicle, a 10yo midi E200/Streetlite/Versa, or a 10yo B7RLE/Citaro/OK let's throw Tempo in there. Consider reliability and passenger safistfaction. Given you an easy target there, was not really sure what the 3rd most popular heavyweight was in 2013. Consider battery buses are heavier, so chassis stress will be higher. A 10 year old B7RLE can be fairly rattly. I recently travelled on one of the 108s Citaros from Lewisham to Bow Church and wasn't really impressed with it. You offer little comparison if you are trying to claim the midi is better?
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Post by vjaska on Oct 23, 2023 16:10:32 GMT
I don't see the issue with more Metrocity's personally though I don't think they'll ultimately go for them IMO. Definitely don't see why heavyweight construction is a important requirement - reliability and passenger satisfaction should be the main concerns OK which is the better vehicle, a 10yo midi E200/Streetlite/Versa, or a 10yo B7RLE/Citaro/OK let's throw Tempo in there. Consider reliability and passenger safistfaction. Given you an easy target there, was not really sure what the 3rd most popular heavyweight was in 2013. Consider battery buses are heavier, so chassis stress will be higher. Well I'm slightly biased as everyone knows my contempt for Enviro 200's but how I really like Versas plus I'm not particularly keen on a 10 year old Streetlite given it would likely be a Cummins example which are dreadful whereas the three heavy single deckers you mentioned I've no issue with. That all said, the 255 isn't a particularly stressful route to the point it would require heavy duty single deckers. Now if it was something like the 227 which currently uses lighter single deckers, then I'd agree but for the 255, light single deckers will probably do the job.
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 24, 2023 8:41:50 GMT
BN (8) currently have more ESs out than E (7), even though 2 (ES41&50) of them are out on the wrong route, 133.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 24, 2023 10:35:40 GMT
BN (8) currently have more ESs out than E (7), even though 2 (ES41&50) of them are out on the wrong route, 133. It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319
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Post by darz on Oct 24, 2023 11:06:06 GMT
BN (8) currently have more ESs out than E (7), even though 2 (ES41&50) of them are out on the wrong route, 133. It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319 BN always prioritises their central London routes, they did the same thing with the HVs back in 2014-15 giving them to the 59 instead of the 319 Would be interesting to see EAs on the 417 tho
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 24, 2023 11:19:06 GMT
It’s funny that multiple ESs have done 133 before they’ve even done the other electric route, 319 BN always prioritises their central London routes, they did the same thing with the HVs back in 2014-15 giving them to the 59 instead of the 319 Would be interesting to see EAs on the 417 tho Depends if an EA can get round, according to locals on here they should be okay, but it’s also a case of whether BN will blind them
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Post by M1104 on Oct 24, 2023 11:43:27 GMT
BN always prioritises their central London routes, they did the same thing with the HVs back in 2014-15 giving them to the 59 instead of the 319 Would be interesting to see EAs on the 417 tho Depends if an EA can get round, according to locals on here they should be okay, but it’s also a case of whether BN will blind them Should be able to get around as every part of the 417 has been covered by longer LTs from other routes, including diverted 3s via Central Hill to Crystal Palace.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Oct 24, 2023 14:04:36 GMT
BN always prioritises their central London routes, they did the same thing with the HVs back in 2014-15 giving them to the 59 instead of the 319 Would be interesting to see EAs on the 417 tho Depends if an EA can get round, according to locals on here they should be okay, but it’s also a case of whether BN will blind them The EAs should be able to get around the 417 considering LTs can
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Post by london23 on Oct 24, 2023 17:42:28 GMT
T296 has returned to Dartford is that to replace either T11 or 38.
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 24, 2023 19:41:53 GMT
T296 has returned to Dartford is that to replace either T11 or 38. T11, 38, 71-74, 76-81 are being replaced DTs original Ts are going home except T300 for now
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