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Post by ServerKing on Nov 5, 2023 5:37:07 GMT
Some of the ENRs on the 318 are already looking worse for wear I hope they get a refurb soon, or even if 9 of the SLS's redundant from the 450 could turn a wheel and come to replace them, plus any Dart hangers-on
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Post by COBO on Nov 5, 2023 5:56:52 GMT
A repaint before the tender results for the 318 has been released that's kinda risky. I doubt that 410 will need all of the ex 450 SLS's I wonder what will happen to rest of the SLSs. They could use the remaining for the 318 there should be leftover I think there's enough for the 318. Besides from the 410 what are the plans for the remaining SLSs?
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Post by WH241 on Nov 5, 2023 9:59:47 GMT
A repaint before the tender results for the 318 has been released that's kinda risky. I doubt that 410 will need all of the ex 450 SLS's I wonder what will happen to rest of the SLSs. They could use the remaining for the 318 there should be leftover I think there's enough for the 318. Besides from the 410 what are the plans for the remaining SLSs? Why is it risky the 318 starts a new contract in November 2025? Stagecoach are have been giving the smart hybrids at WH a repaint and those tenders renew in April 2025.
Nothing wrong in keeping buses looking presentable.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Nov 5, 2023 12:51:47 GMT
A repaint before the tender results for the 318 has been released that's kinda risky. I doubt that 410 will need all of the ex 450 SLS's I wonder what will happen to rest of the SLSs. They could use the remaining for the 318 there should be leftover I think there's enough for the 318. Besides from the 410 what are the plans for the remaining SLSs? I doubt there are any plans for the remaining SLSs, since Arriva didn’t gain any routes that could use them i.e 382, 393 etc. I think the SLSs only hope is the 299
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Post by ibus246 on Nov 5, 2023 12:53:40 GMT
A repaint before the tender results for the 318 has been released that's kinda risky. I doubt that 410 will need all of the ex 450 SLS's I wonder what will happen to rest of the SLSs. They could use the remaining for the 318 there should be leftover I think there's enough for the 318. Besides from the 410 what are the plans for the remaining SLSs? I doubt there are any plans for the remaining SLSs, since Arriva didn’t gain any routes that could use them i.e 382, 393 etc. I think the SLSs only hope is the 299 There is always the provincial fleet
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Nov 5, 2023 12:57:04 GMT
I doubt there are any plans for the remaining SLSs, since Arriva didn’t gain any routes that could use them i.e 382, 393 etc. I think the SLSs only hope is the 299 There is always the provincial fleet Yeah, that’s also an option— I was just talking about in London
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 5, 2023 13:04:49 GMT
A repaint before the tender results for the 318 has been released that's kinda risky. I doubt that 410 will need all of the ex 450 SLS's I wonder what will happen to rest of the SLSs. They could use the remaining for the 318 there should be leftover I think there's enough for the 318. Besides from the 410 what are the plans for the remaining SLSs? I doubt there are any plans for the remaining SLSs, since Arriva didn’t gain any routes that could use them i.e 382, 393 etc. I think the SLSs only hope is the 299 The 233 or W12 could also be possible. Maybe even the B14 if they can fit?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Nov 5, 2023 13:38:05 GMT
I doubt there are any plans for the remaining SLSs, since Arriva didn’t gain any routes that could use them i.e 382, 393 etc. I think the SLSs only hope is the 299 The 233 or W12 could also be possible. Maybe even the B14 if they can fit? They would be far too long for W12. 233 is allocated 9m buses, I’m not sure if it can take 9.7m buses
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Post by busoccultation on Nov 5, 2023 13:43:07 GMT
The 233 or W12 could also be possible. Maybe even the B14 if they can fit? They would be far too long for W12. 233 is allocated 9m buses, I’m not sure if it can take 9.7m buses 233 can take 9.7m buses and in fact 2 out of 3 buses currently on the route are 9.7m E200 SE89 & SEN23 with the other bus out on the 233 today is a 10.2m E200 733.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Nov 5, 2023 14:06:36 GMT
They would be far too long for W12. 233 is allocated 9m buses, I’m not sure if it can take 9.7m buses 233 can take 9.7m buses and in fact 2 out of 3 buses currently on the route are 9.7m E200 SE89 & SEN23 with the other bus out on the 233 today is a 10.2m E200 733. So I suppose it would be able to take SLSs. Whether Arriva bid or not is the question . They don’t seem very fond of single decker and/or low frequency routes that they don’t already operate
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Post by DE20106 on Nov 5, 2023 14:07:01 GMT
They would be far too long for W12. 233 is allocated 9m buses, I’m not sure if it can take 9.7m buses 233 can take 9.7m buses and in fact 2 out of 3 buses currently on the route are 9.7m E200 SE89 & SEN23 with the other bus out on the 233 today is a 10.2m E200 733. More than that, hasn’t the 233 seen quite a few 10.9s as well? It does tend to just get what’s left over from MB garage 😂
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 5, 2023 14:49:17 GMT
The 233 or W12 could also be possible. Maybe even the B14 if they can fit? They would be far too long for W12. 233 is allocated 9m buses, I’m not sure if it can take 9.7m buses In it's current form yes. But the revised W12 going to Woodford Bridge should be able to use longer SDs. I assume it's just the Walthamstow Village section that currently restricts the W12? Arriva still may not bid, but it's the only opportunity to re-allocate the SLSs relatively soon. If they were to win the 233 or 299 it would be a while until that contract starts. My guess would probably be for Arriva to keep the full 66reg SLS batch for the 410, allowing for a few extra spares, and the 17reg then either sold or kept with Arriva outside of London. With Arriva London having quite a small SD fleet, it's not like they can disperse them to different garages for a while as refurb cover etc, like they can with DDs.
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 5, 2023 14:58:43 GMT
233 can take 9.7m buses and in fact 2 out of 3 buses currently on the route are 9.7m E200 SE89 & SEN23 with the other bus out on the 233 today is a 10.2m E200 733. So I suppose it would be able to take SLSs. Whether Arriva bid or not is the question . They don’t seem very fond of single decker and/or low frequency routes that they don’t already operate There's plenty of higher frequency and/or DD routes that Arriva didn't bid for recently. Perhaps with the new ownership there may be a change in strategy now? Arriva did run the 233 before, and it's an example of a route that doesn't really have any garages that close to the line of route. The 233 is also in a tranche with a few DT routes such as the 99.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Nov 5, 2023 15:02:50 GMT
So I suppose it would be able to take SLSs. Whether Arriva bid or not is the question . They don’t seem very fond of single decker and/or low frequency routes that they don’t already operate There's plenty of higher frequency and/or DD routes that Arriva didn't bid for recently. Perhaps with the new ownership there may be a change in strategy now? Arriva did run the 233 before, and it's an example of a route that doesn't really have any garages that close to the line of route. The 233 is also in a tranche with a few DT routes such as the 99. I think Arriva or GAL could pull a full tranche. That tranche I believe includes 99, 233, 269, 401, B14 and B16? There should be enough HVs for the 99/269/401/B16, and then there’s SLSs for the 233
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Post by dace2 on Nov 5, 2023 16:53:31 GMT
once the 307 convert full electronliner, what garage will DW506, DW508-DW514 be allocated in?
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