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Post by kermit463 on Feb 21, 2024 19:45:25 GMT
This question might’ve been asked before but here goes. Will the 405 ever become a 24 hour service?? Does it need a 24 hour service?
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Post by PGAT on Feb 21, 2024 20:56:22 GMT
Isn't the 405 one of the least used double-deck routes? Surely it wouldn't justify a night service
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Post by DE20106 on Feb 21, 2024 21:16:32 GMT
Isn't the 405 one of the least used double-deck routes? Surely it wouldn't justify a night service Its not one of the least, but it is fairly low down the ranks. The 292, 313, 317, 372, 401, 498, 412, 406, 418, 467, 481 all come lower
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 21, 2024 22:37:28 GMT
The route is going to St. James St Surely not... St James is always packed since 34 moved in. In fact seen buses parked at the final stop waiting for someone to move off. Something has to use South Grove. Although, I do love chaos. Sorry, I typed the completely wrong thing. Just realised when you mentioned, yes it is going to South Grove (out of service from WSTC)
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Post by yunus on Feb 21, 2024 22:58:23 GMT
Just to confirm if I am wrong, the 242s Hybrids are off to WN for the W3?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 21, 2024 23:07:07 GMT
Just to confirm if I am wrong, the 242s Hybrids are off to WN for the W3? I don’t believe it’s confirmed, but it seems most likely
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Post by londonbuses184 on Feb 21, 2024 23:18:10 GMT
Just to confirm if I am wrong, the 242s Hybrids are off to WN for the W3? I don’t believe it’s confirmed, but it seems most likely I think they will stay off road to all get refurbished before they probably head off to the W3
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Post by vjaska on Feb 22, 2024 17:25:34 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 22, 2024 17:39:59 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. Arent the EMCs 10.5 or 10.6m?
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Post by PGAT on Feb 22, 2024 17:46:30 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. Arent the EMCs 10.5 or 10.6m? Indeed
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Post by southlondonbus on Feb 22, 2024 17:51:03 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. That's interesting then. Have any 10.m SEs even strayed on the routes as far as we know? I wonder if instead the EMCs might switch to the 166
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 17:52:05 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. Arent the EMCs 10.5 or 10.6m? The 14 & 64 plates are 10.6m, the 15 ones are 10.8m.
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Post by kermit463 on Feb 22, 2024 19:15:02 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. Any pictures of one blinded for the 455?
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Feb 22, 2024 23:47:57 GMT
cybermike137 Are any chargers at all installed at TH? Seeing as there are two ESs and 612 is PVR 2, (and half the Ts aren’t even blinded) I don’t see why 612 isn’t just converted to ES already.
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Post by DE20106 on Feb 22, 2024 23:56:31 GMT
cybermike137 Are any chargers at all installed at TH? Seeing as there are two ESs and 612 is PVR 2, (and half the Ts aren’t even blinded) I don’t see why 612 isn’t just converted to ES already. The chargers are all in place, it just a case of waiting for the garage to be wired up to the grid to allow those chargers to be used. After a long lull, that work is finally commencing so the garage *should* be ready for EV operation fairly imminently. Cybermike has certainly given us a fantastic running commentary of TH’s situation up to now
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