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Post by vjaska on Feb 23, 2024 3:18:35 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. Any pictures of one blinded for the 455? The picture was posted up on here by someone when they were new IIRC, not sure where it is now.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 23, 2024 3:33:38 GMT
I can't find the couple of posts that was discussing the 312 the other day, it's electric buses rumoured to be moving off the route and one post estimating maybe due to the electrics themselves but, it's only occurred to me why that rumour is possibly true. When Go-Ahead won the 455, a handful of 10.8m WS's were ordered for the 455 - they arrived at C and even sported Go-Ahead London Metrobus logos as I remember seeing a pic of one but they never entered service at C and subsequently, ended up at PL on the 39 with it's other WS's. The reason why this happened I seem to remember, is they failed a route test and IIRC, Old Lodge Lane was the issue. The EMC's on the 312 are 10.8m too and the 455 has (not counting one off workings if any happened) only ever been 10.2m to 10.5m buses officially so ENL's taking over the 312 when it's extended to Old Lodge Lane makes sense from that point of view and I actually don't think the issue around the EMC's electric capabilities is the reason at all but it's just my thoughts. That's interesting then. Have any 10.m SEs even strayed on the routes as far as we know? I wonder if instead the EMCs might switch to the 166 Looking at LVF history, there is two particular SE's listed of which one of them has done a few trips on the 455 and the other did covid extra trips on the 455. Under Abellio, it seems there were far more instances of 10.8m Enviro 200's on the route both from the 12 & 64 reg batches. There is also two 65 reg SE's that apparently have been on the route but Go-Ahead has been far stricter about longer vehicles running on the 455 in comparison and under Arriva, it was very rare to see anything other than a DWL full stop, and usually, the interlopers were single door PDL's. As for the EMC's, I'm intrigued as to what happens to them in this situation should the rumour be indeed true as there isn't many ideal places to go. TH is still undergoing electrification so that surely rules rules the 255 out, plus the EMC's are likely too long for a full time allocation, 325 leaves DX on 2nd and also isn't electrified, DT isn't electrified otherwise the B15 would of been a good shout so really, the 166 is the remaining one as Arriva don't have any other single decker routes that use longer buses outside of the 347 & 375 which I'm not even going to consider
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Post by cybermike137 on Feb 23, 2024 9:36:17 GMT
cybermike137 Are any chargers at all installed at TH? Seeing as there are two ESs and 612 is PVR 2, (and half the Ts aren’t even blinded) I don’t see why 612 isn’t just converted to ES already. The chargers are all in place, it just a case of waiting for the garage to be wired up to the grid to allow those chargers to be used. After a long lull, that work is finally commencing so the garage *should* be ready for EV operation fairly imminently. Cybermike has certainly given us a fantastic running commentary of TH’s situation up to now Unfortunately you make it sound amazing but work has imminently stopped already nothing has happen for the last week and half, there is a huge hole at the front of the garage, it has come to a stand still again. Yes we have 2 ES but not chargers are working yet. And no one is type trained yet. No one knows what is going on again
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Post by cybermike137 on Feb 23, 2024 9:41:43 GMT
One of our drivers is at Enfield, there are so many ES lined up, one of which is ES28 apparently waiting for service on 64.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 23, 2024 9:47:07 GMT
One of our drivers is at Enfield, there are so many ES lined up, one of which is ES28 apparently waiting for service on 64. Or do you mean Edmonton. There is still a few of the buses due for South parked up there.
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Post by YY13VKP on Feb 23, 2024 9:48:00 GMT
ENX16 has finally entered service on the SL5, meanwhile ENX31 has returned to service after a month out on the 289.
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Post by cybermike137 on Feb 23, 2024 9:54:10 GMT
One of our drivers is at Enfield, there are so many ES lined up, one of which is ES28 apparently waiting for service on 64. Or do you mean Edmonton. There is still a few of the buses due for South parked up there. The driver said Enfield, he may be wrong I'm just going by what he said
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Post by DE20106 on Feb 23, 2024 10:18:21 GMT
The chargers are all in place, it just a case of waiting for the garage to be wired up to the grid to allow those chargers to be used. After a long lull, that work is finally commencing so the garage *should* be ready for EV operation fairly imminently. Cybermike has certainly given us a fantastic running commentary of TH’s situation up to now Unfortunately you make it sound amazing but work has imminently stopped already nothing has happen for the last week and half, there is a huge hole at the front of the garage, it has come to a stand still again. Yes we have 2 ES but not chargers are working yet. And no one is type trained yet. No one knows what is going on again Oh so it’s all ground to a halt again then 😂😂
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Post by cybermike137 on Feb 23, 2024 10:33:39 GMT
Unfortunately you make it sound amazing but work has imminently stopped already nothing has happen for the last week and half, there is a huge hole at the front of the garage, it has come to a stand still again. Yes we have 2 ES but not chargers are working yet. And no one is type trained yet. No one knows what is going on again Oh so it’s all ground to a halt again then 😂😂 Yep indeed, workers and diggers have disappeared again leaving a huge hole at the front of the garage
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Post by DT 11 on Feb 23, 2024 12:01:29 GMT
Routes 66 & 103 have been retained with existing vehicles.
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Post by kmkcheng on Feb 23, 2024 12:29:28 GMT
Routes 66 & 103 have been retained with existing vehicles. Also retained 34, 192, 370 and SL1
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Post by vjaska on Feb 23, 2024 12:48:57 GMT
One of our drivers is at Enfield, there are so many ES lined up, one of which is ES28 apparently waiting for service on 64. Or do you mean Edmonton. There is still a few of the buses due for South parked up there. Is there anything stopping them from converting the 50 whilst it’s at BN and then moving it over to TH once TH is electrified?
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 23, 2024 13:33:17 GMT
So unless I have missed something the following routes are the ones that currently need to find a fleet of existing hybrids :-
W3, SL2, 627, 66, 103 & 370.
Hoping the allocations for the first two become apparent shortly, then you can work out what is left.
There should still be a small number of vehicles unallocated, and subject to blind orders would be in a position to move over soon to the latter 4 route, but as we know things never work out like that!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 23, 2024 14:27:08 GMT
So unless I have missed something the following routes are the ones that currently need to find a fleet of existing hybrids :- W3, SL2, 627, 66, 103 & 370. Hoping the allocations for the first two become apparent shortly, then you can work out what is left. There should still be a small number of vehicles unallocated, and subject to blind orders would be in a position to move over soon to the latter 4 route, but as we know things never work out like that! Judging by the line of HAs parked in DX, that's what the route is getting.
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Post by SILENCED on Feb 23, 2024 14:46:29 GMT
So unless I have missed something the following routes are the ones that currently need to find a fleet of existing hybrids :- W3, SL2, 627, 66, 103 & 370. Hoping the allocations for the first two become apparent shortly, then you can work out what is left. There should still be a small number of vehicles unallocated, and subject to blind orders would be in a position to move over soon to the latter 4 route, but as we know things never work out like that! Judging by the line of HAs parked in DX, that's what the route is getting. Thinking more we will not have identified which examples do not have a home on 198,SL1 or SL2, as we not 100% sure of which examples will operate it.
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