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Post by WH241 on Mar 2, 2024 14:12:52 GMT
SL2 has started questionably with Arriva. We see buses have not completely been blinded yet and are simply only showing the SL2 numbering, I believe only HA45 and 52 have been branded and the rest are yet to get them. But I do believe most of the buses will already have received USB chargers by now! There's also an appearance of DW333 on the route! The service of the route seems to be generally okay though, but we see young enthusiasts fighting and pushing around to make a FRV of the route. Overall, not the worst but DX could do better That is terrible but not surprising the Slipboard Kings are at it again all those HAs that were sitting around could have gotten new blinds, let alone branding I am assuming FRV is First Ride Video? As I said earlier I assume TfL arrange the branding so don’t think this is Arriva.
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Post by ! ALEED on Mar 2, 2024 14:21:54 GMT
SL2 has started questionably with Arriva. We see buses have not completely been blinded yet and are simply only showing the SL2 numbering, I believe only HA45 and 52 have been branded and the rest are yet to get them. But I do believe most of the buses will already have received USB chargers by now! There's also an appearance of DW333 on the route! The service of the route seems to be generally okay though, but we see young enthusiasts fighting and pushing around to make a FRV of the route. Overall, not the worst but DX could do better That is terrible but not surprising the Slipboard Kings are at it again all those HAs that were sitting around could have gotten new blinds, let alone branding I am assuming FRV is First Ride Video? I would've assumed the same thing! But it actually just means a Full Route Visual, a video displaying each place the route goes and how it gets there. Definitely agree with you, they had quite some time to get the branding done!
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Post by DE20106 on Mar 2, 2024 14:42:00 GMT
SL2 has started questionably with Arriva. We see buses have not completely been blinded yet and are simply only showing the SL2 numbering, I believe only HA45 and 52 have been branded and the rest are yet to get them. But I do believe most of the buses will already have received USB chargers by now! There's also an appearance of DW333 on the route! The service of the route seems to be generally okay though, but we see young enthusiasts fighting and pushing around to make a FRV of the route. Overall, not the worst but DX could do better That is terrible but not surprising the Slipboard Kings are at it again all those HAs that were sitting around could have gotten new blinds, let alone branding I am assuming FRV is First Ride Video? DT11 posted in the Superloop thread that the blinds were delayed due to production issues at McKenna, which to be fair isn’t really within Arriva’s control
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 2, 2024 15:44:35 GMT
That is terrible but not surprising the Slipboard Kings are at it again all those HAs that were sitting around could have gotten new blinds, let alone branding I am assuming FRV is First Ride Video? DT11 posted in the Superloop thread that the blinds were delayed due to production issues at McKenna, which to be fair isn’t really within Arriva’s control I do wonder how this even got allowed to happen. The 325s buses had their blinds on time as did the SL3 where Stagecoach had less tike with the buses than Arriva did. Not to mention the blinds do seem to have actually made it onto the buses, they're just not set accordingly.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 2, 2024 16:08:45 GMT
DT11 posted in the Superloop thread that the blinds were delayed due to production issues at McKenna, which to be fair isn’t really within Arriva’s control I do wonder how this even got allowed to happen. The 325s buses had their blinds on time as did the SL3 where Stagecoach had less tike with the buses than Arriva did. Not to mention the blinds do seem to have actually made it onto the buses, they're just not set accordingly. Go-Ahead and Abellio also had multiple buses running around without correct blinds today, it’s really likely an issue for TfL at the very least
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Post by enviroPB on Mar 2, 2024 16:13:30 GMT
DT11 posted in the Superloop thread that the blinds were delayed due to production issues at McKenna, which to be fair isn’t really within Arriva’s control I do wonder how this even got allowed to happen. The 325s buses had their blinds on time as did the SL3 where Stagecoach had less tike with the buses than Arriva did. Not to mention the blinds do seem to have actually made it onto the buses, they're just not set accordingly. From tender announcement to today, GAL had 9 months to prepare for the 325 and Arriva had four and a half months for the SL2. Literally half the time. And you've already seen reports of ordering issues from the manufacturers blighting all London operators. I suspect GAL likely didn't order new sets. Judging from the allocation of the old 276 SEs, I reckon they only needed inserts for East Beckton and Forest Gate turns; maybe Plaistow Broadway at a push. Every other turn is covered by existing sets from the 300, so even easier for GAL to get ready in time.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 2, 2024 16:27:06 GMT
I do wonder how this even got allowed to happen. The 325s buses had their blinds on time as did the SL3 where Stagecoach had less tike with the buses than Arriva did. Not to mention the blinds do seem to have actually made it onto the buses, they're just not set accordingly. From tender announcement to today, GAL had 9 months to prepare for the 325 and Arriva had four and a half months for the SL2. Literally half the time. And you've already seen reports of ordering issues from the manufacturers blighting all London operators. I suspect GAL likely didn't order new sets. Judging from the allocation of the old 276 SEs, I reckon they only needed inserts for East Beckton and Forest Gate turns; maybe Plaistow Broadway at a push. Every other turn is covered by existing sets from the 300, so even easier for GAL to get ready in time. I believe Go Ahead did actually order new sets, but they've got a few other routes on them from previous electric cover. As was mentioned on another thread Arriva are using inserts. If Stagecoach managed last week what has become the issue this week?
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Post by va59 on Mar 2, 2024 17:18:43 GMT
Sorry to say this to anyone that works for Arriva but they are an absolute shambles. Countless buses and routes that have stickers on in the windscreen, poorly prepared buses and dirty. Pretty much every company that has a Superloop route have been spot on with prep and blinds. Today, on the SL2 debut, not only do they put out an unbranded bus but it's not even blinded. Yeah, you can say a bus is better than no bus but this is the first day. Stagecoach have run some unbranded buses since the SL3 launch but at least it blinded.
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Post by DE20106 on Mar 2, 2024 17:19:29 GMT
I do wonder how this even got allowed to happen. The 325s buses had their blinds on time as did the SL3 where Stagecoach had less tike with the buses than Arriva did. Not to mention the blinds do seem to have actually made it onto the buses, they're just not set accordingly. Go-Ahead and Abellio also had multiple buses running around without correct blinds today, it’s really likely an issue for TfL at the very least Also exactly the same debacle happened in 2017 when the 131 was taken on by AL, hardly any buses blinded correctly. And this persisted with the WVNs pretty much all the way through AL’s first tenure with the route!
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Mar 2, 2024 17:20:09 GMT
SL2 has started questionably with Arriva. We see buses have not completely been blinded yet and are simply only showing the SL2 numbering, I believe only HA45 and 52 have been branded and the rest are yet to get them. But I do believe most of the buses will already have received USB chargers by now! There's also an appearance of DW333 on the route! The service of the route seems to be generally okay though, but we see young enthusiasts fighting and pushing around to make a FRV of the route. Overall, not the worst but DX could do better That is terrible but not surprising the Slipboard Kings are at it again all those HAs that were sitting around could have gotten new blinds, let alone branding I am assuming FRV is First Ride Video? Full Route Visual - a timelapse version of a full route.
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Post by WH241 on Mar 2, 2024 17:21:44 GMT
From tender announcement to today, GAL had 9 months to prepare for the 325 and Arriva had four and a half months for the SL2. Literally half the time. And you've already seen reports of ordering issues from the manufacturers blighting all London operators. I suspect GAL likely didn't order new sets. Judging from the allocation of the old 276 SEs, I reckon they only needed inserts for East Beckton and Forest Gate turns; maybe Plaistow Broadway at a push. Every other turn is covered by existing sets from the 300, so even easier for GAL to get ready in time. I believe Go Ahead did actually order new sets, but they've got a few other routes on them from previous electric cover. As was mentioned on another thread Arriva are using inserts. If Stagecoach managed last week what has become the issue this week? Well then there is your answer! Go Ahead probably order the blinds months ago the 366 sets had other routes on them. The ex D7 WVLs have the 157, 262 and 473 in them. Not sure you can make the same comparison to Arriva and the SL2 as they haven’t had to order blinds and believe they are having indeed fitted to older blind sets.
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Post by DE20106 on Mar 2, 2024 17:25:08 GMT
Sorry to say this to anyone that works for Arriva but they are an absolute shambles. Countless buses and routes that have stickers on in the windscreen, poorly prepared buses and dirty. Pretty much every company that has a Superloop route have been spot on with prep and blinds. Today, on the SL2 debut, not only do they put out an unbranded bus but it's not even blinded. Yeah, you can say a bus is better than no bus but this is the first day. Stagecoach have run some unbranded buses since the SL3 launch but at least it blinded. I’m gonna say this now diplomatically to try and stop loads more posts hounding what you’ve just said but almost everything you’ve said was outside Arriva’s control. It’s already been mentioned in the superloop thread that McKenna who make the blinds didn’t supply them properly, and TfL themselves come branding the buses, so again Arriva not having the buses branded on time is not within their control. It’s not Arriva you should be directing the criticsm at, Stagecoach also had a disastrous first day on the SL3 last week, but it’s the first day. Things nearly always settle down in a week or so. As I just mentioned GAL had an equally disastrous first day with terrible service and extremely poor blinds in 2017 when they took the 131 on. And you should also look at Abellio/TUKs frankly shocking blind presentation at the moment, it’s not just Arriva
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 2, 2024 17:27:47 GMT
I believe Go Ahead did actually order new sets, but they've got a few other routes on them from previous electric cover. As was mentioned on another thread Arriva are using inserts. If Stagecoach managed last week what has become the issue this week? Well then there is your answer! Go Ahead probably order the blinds months ago the 366 sets had other routes on them. The ex D7 WVLs have the 157, 262 and 473 in them. Not sure you can make the same comparison to Arriva and the SL2 as they haven’t had to order blinds and believe they are having indeed fitted to older blind sets. Stagecoach managed it with less time for the SL3, so why can’t Arriva do it? Why didn’t Arriva order them at the same time as the ones for the SL5 or SL1? It’s really a shambles and a very poor showing from Arriva today. In a word a clusterf**k.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 2, 2024 17:32:20 GMT
I believe Go Ahead did actually order new sets, but they've got a few other routes on them from previous electric cover. As was mentioned on another thread Arriva are using inserts. If Stagecoach managed last week what has become the issue this week? Well then there is your answer! Go Ahead probably order the blinds months ago the 366 sets had other routes on them. The ex D7 WVLs have the 157, 262 and 473 in them. Not sure you can make the same comparison to Arriva and the SL2 as they haven’t had to order blinds and believe they are having indeed fitted to older blind sets. Your point would hold if the SL3 wasn't successfully launched a week prior with buses fully blinded. It was in exactly the same award as the SL2.
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Post by dace2 on Mar 2, 2024 17:59:56 GMT
DW333 was on the SL2, thought it was a 150 but it had bandit blinds.
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