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Post by billa on Mar 3, 2024 19:48:53 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Jut thought, it would be funny seeing people getting SL2 and EL2 confused and going on the wrong bus especially in Barking. Here's a question, will the SL2 buses also have the SL1 on the blind set? I'm just thinking if a SL2 was 15 late you could tell the driver to stick up SL1 and use the station to stand without the BSC noticing
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Post by mondraker275 on Mar 3, 2024 20:06:41 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry.
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Post by billa on Mar 3, 2024 20:32:24 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to not send the route down the road to the airport, Would certainly seem like a nifty way of getting from North/East London to City Airport for all 5 people who do happen to use it. Besides its not as if the SL2 and 3 meet at the opposite ends of the ferry
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 3, 2024 20:38:22 GMT
Could existing buses be retrofitted with LED blinds and Smart Cameras instead of mirrors and roller smart blinds? The longer real mirrors stay the better. The Cameras do have teething problems occasionally especially sometimes the Screen can go Green and you cannot see a thing When dark. If the housing for the mirror cameras takes a knock, there goes your LVDS feed (in English, your camera connection). They might be cheap and cheerful cameras from TEMU for all we know. New tech on an older bus may not go hand in hand as I assume more connections would have to be wired in. You want mirrors that work when pulling out into fast traffic on the likes of the A406
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 3, 2024 20:50:08 GMT
It has been said in the past that TfL would like to charge for the ferry crossings when tolls are introduced next year for the Blackwall and Silvertown tunnels. It would require an act of parliament. Seriously what have some of most deprived parts of London done to deserve two tunnel and ferry tolls? Plus we know they will find a way to charge for the Rotherhithe Tunnel or close it therefore forcing cars to use the other two tunnels. I think Khan is burning through money to divert away from stuff he should be doing, like lowering crime. It's like the naming of the Overground lines that no one asked for If the tunnels improve traffic flow (crawling to the Blackwall Tunnel Northbound from Blackheath is no fun in rush hour in the mornings), then that's good. They could move the Ferries to Hammersmith seeing as they won't fix the bridge Back to Arriva, I think DW336 is a candidate for LEDs after her eventual refurb along with DW190
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Post by redexpress on Mar 3, 2024 22:29:52 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. I've transferred from bus to ferry more than once at North Woolwich. I accept I'm very much in a minority in that respect!
The old ferries were quite interesting to use as a foot passenger. Certainly better than dodging cyclists through a dank tunnel. Haven't been on the new ferries yet so I have no idea how they compare. And it looks like it will be quite a while before I get to try them, if ever.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Mar 3, 2024 22:39:29 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. I guess because its next to the ferry terminal, and as the ferry is free, people do use it rather than pay for the DLR to Woolwich.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Mar 3, 2024 22:40:59 GMT
Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. I've transferred from bus to ferry more than once at North Woolwich. I accept I'm very much in a minority in that respect!
The old ferries were quite interesting to use as a foot passenger. Certainly better than dodging cyclists through a dank tunnel. Haven't been on the new ferries yet so I have no idea how they compare. And it looks like it will be quite a while before I get to try them, if ever.
I used the ferry every day when I was at the Woolwich Campus of the University of Greenwich- this was in the days before DLR though
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Post by vjaska on Mar 3, 2024 23:06:42 GMT
Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. I've transferred from bus to ferry more than once at North Woolwich. I accept I'm very much in a minority in that respect! The old ferries were quite interesting to use as a foot passenger. Certainly better than dodging cyclists through a dank tunnel. Haven't been on the new ferries yet so I have no idea how they compare. And it looks like it will be quite a while before I get to try them, if ever.
I've seen a few do it myself, wouldn't say there streams of people but certainly not 0 and I agree, I always chose the ferry over the tunnel - did the tunnel once and never set foot in it since.
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Post by martynl on Mar 4, 2024 0:16:56 GMT
Overnight? Like Abellio have done in the past Or potentially at the very least order a TC set and put the 325 on them like many other companies have done in anticipation of a move. It could have been done overnight. The problem is though, the route change to use ENL's was done at the last minute as the EMC's has been rendered unsuitable for the extension. Years gone by it would have been done to include a route being lost, but would not be done due to prices of power blinds gone to the roof. Saw ENL66 in St Georges Walk yesterday with no blinds, just a hastily placed paper number and destination in the windscreen. How long are the ex 325 buses going to be used or are these for the long term? If so how long before they're fully blinded? Also in the picture is HA22 on a rare duty on the 412. Attachments:
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Post by cl54 on Mar 4, 2024 1:31:59 GMT
Looks like Arriva sent someone out to North Woolwich in the evening yesterday to adjust the front blinds on DW333 to be white and inserted the white laminate SL2 card in front of it. Clearly trying their best I believe blinds were delivered late on Friday hence they prioritised getting route number inserts in first on Friday night and then front and side destinations in last night. It should be remembered the route has been introduced a week earlier than previously announced.
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Post by cl54 on Mar 4, 2024 1:38:17 GMT
One bus has been properly blinded for the SL2 (HA38), DX might be getting under control a bit. Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. There are clearly some people at TfL who like meddling with destinations that have worked for many years. This only happens at contract renewal. The ferry is now running both boats during the week and bus passengers do use it in preference to walking through the foot tunnel (and often having to use the stairs because the lifts aren't working).
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Post by vjaska on Mar 4, 2024 1:54:29 GMT
It could have been done overnight. The problem is though, the route change to use ENL's was done at the last minute as the EMC's has been rendered unsuitable for the extension. Years gone by it would have been done to include a route being lost, but would not be done due to prices of power blinds gone to the roof. Saw ENL66 in St Georges Walk yesterday with no blinds, just a hastily placed paper number and destination in the windscreen. How long are the ex 325 buses going to be used or are these for the long term? If so how long before they're fully blinded? Also in the picture is HA22 on a rare duty on the 412. The ENL's are the new allocation for the 312 until the end of the contract
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Post by cybermike137 on Mar 4, 2024 6:12:47 GMT
It could have been done overnight. The problem is though, the route change to use ENL's was done at the last minute as the EMC's has been rendered unsuitable for the extension. Years gone by it would have been done to include a route being lost, but would not be done due to prices of power blinds gone to the roof. Saw ENL66 in St Georges Walk yesterday with no blinds, just a hastily placed paper number and destination in the windscreen. How long are the ex 325 buses going to be used or are these for the long term? If so how long before they're fully blinded? Also in the picture is HA22 on a rare duty on the 412. Do you mean HT22?
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 4, 2024 8:54:21 GMT
Why the need for Ferry Terminal? Almost certainly the 473 is going to change as well. Literally no bus passenger will ever use the Ferry. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to not send the route down the road to the airport, Would certainly seem like a nifty way of getting from North/East London to City Airport for all 5 people who do happen to use it. Besides its not as if the SL2 and 3 meet at the opposite ends of the ferry TfL assessed running to the Airport and decided against it as existing bus routes only carry small numbers of Airport passengers. The extension would not have justified the extra resources. Most use the good DLR link and other rail connections.
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