|
Post by SILENCED on Jul 31, 2024 7:35:38 GMT
ES155 LY24FXH 7/2024 ES156 LY24FXJ 7/2024 ES157 LY24FXK 7/2024 ES158 LY24FXL -/-- ES159 LY24FXM 7/2024 ES160 LY24FXx -/-- Edit: also 3 registered electroliners without a fleet code LY24JNV 7/2024 LY24JNx -/-- LY24JNZ 7/2024 The notable thing here ES142-160 will end up 24 Reg and ES85-141 will probably en up with 74 or 25 regs. The complete opposite of my OCD for registrations and fleet numbers The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced .
|
|
|
Post by DT 11 on Jul 31, 2024 8:02:52 GMT
The notable thing here ES142-160 will end up 24 Reg and ES85-141 will probably en up with 74 or 25 regs. The complete opposite of my OCD for registrations and fleet numbers The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced . Bus Lists on the Web has ES50-84, ES142-160 with all their registered number plates. ES85-141 are not listed at present.
|
|
darz
Conductor
Posts: 119
|
Post by darz on Jul 31, 2024 13:11:35 GMT
The notable thing here ES142-160 will end up 24 Reg and ES85-141 will probably en up with 74 or 25 regs. The complete opposite of my OCD for registrations and fleet numbers The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced . London spec meaning?
|
|
|
Post by lj61nwc on Jul 31, 2024 13:13:09 GMT
The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced . London spec meaning? Buses that are dual door with all tfl requirements with the others being under the umbrella of regional spec which are typically single door and feature tip down seats etc which arent allowed by tfl
|
|
|
Post by enviroPB on Jul 31, 2024 13:33:57 GMT
Can someone connected to Arriva answer my question about the poor level of service on the 76's to waterloo at the moment? Pretty sure I saw Poultry is closed eastbound for a few weeks meaning additional traffic along London Wall, the 76's line of route.
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Jul 31, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
The notable thing here ES142-160 will end up 24 Reg and ES85-141 will probably en up with 74 or 25 regs. The complete opposite of my OCD for registrations and fleet numbers The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced . That's interesting to know - currently only two out of three of the JNV's show up on the vehicle checker and a few others have already been registered to various car makes so wonder if there is more than the three JNV's still to be revealed or just those 3? Is it confirmed that ES142-160 is 289 & 663 or could 663 be swapped for 689 given it's tender starts earlier (sorry, trying to catch up )? The number matches perfectly in either case and all regs are known for them. EDIT: Actually wouldn't ES142-160 be enough for the 289 and both the 663 & 689 - 17 for 289, the other 2 for the school routes?
|
|
|
Post by PGAT on Jul 31, 2024 13:56:51 GMT
The LY24Jxx buses are reported to be London spec, and unless there are unannounced orders, only Arriva London has outstanding orders, so a number of the ES85-141 batch look to be 24-reg. Do Wright still have a summer factory shutdown does anyone know? ADL and Wrights seem to be clearing their backlog of orders ... but many requirements for new vehicles are unannounced . That's interesting to know - currently only two out of three of the JNV's show up on the vehicle checker and a few others have already been registered to various car makes so wonder if there is more than the three JNV's still to be revealed or just those 3? Is it confirmed that ES142-160 is 289 & 663 or could 663 be swapped for 689 given it's tender starts earlier (sorry, trying to catch up )? The number matches perfectly in either case and all regs are known for them. 689 contract started earlier in April, 663 isnt an Arriva route until the end of August
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Jul 31, 2024 13:59:57 GMT
That's interesting to know - currently only two out of three of the JNV's show up on the vehicle checker and a few others have already been registered to various car makes so wonder if there is more than the three JNV's still to be revealed or just those 3? Is it confirmed that ES142-160 is 289 & 663 or could 663 be swapped for 689 given it's tender starts earlier (sorry, trying to catch up )? The number matches perfectly in either case and all regs are known for them. 689 contract started earlier in April, 663 isnt an Arriva route until the end of August That's what it should of said - swap 689 for 663 as the 689 started earlier, apologies fast typing. In any case, my calculations were wrong as there is 19 buses so all 19 could be allocated between the 289 & both school routes - 17 for 289 and 1 each for 663 & 689.
|
|
|
Post by whiggism on Jul 31, 2024 20:24:16 GMT
Buses that are dual door with all tfl requirements with the others being under the umbrella of regional spec which are typically single door and feature tip down seats etc which arent allowed by tfl When did TFL disallow the use of tip down seats as IIIRC there was always one on old GAL Volvo B7TLs? Also what was the reasoning for this change in tfl requirement
|
|
|
Post by southlondonbus on Jul 31, 2024 20:32:18 GMT
Buses that are dual door with all tfl requirements with the others being under the umbrella of regional spec which are typically single door and feature tip down seats etc which arent allowed by tfl When did TFL disallow the use of tip down seats as IIIRC there was always one on old GAL Volvo B7TLs? Also what was the reasoning for this change in tfl requirement I think it was around 2003. I don't recall them on the later PVLs and certainly were never on the E400s, B9TLs etc.
|
|
|
Post by danorak on Jul 31, 2024 20:33:52 GMT
Buses that are dual door with all tfl requirements with the others being under the umbrella of regional spec which are typically single door and feature tip down seats etc which arent allowed by tfl When did TFL disallow the use of tip down seats as IIIRC there was always one on old GAL Volvo B7TLs? Also what was the reasoning for this change in tfl requirement I think it was mostly to try and help give wheelchair users greater priority over the space, and possibly people missing the seat when they went to sit down as it had tipped back up.
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Jul 31, 2024 21:50:36 GMT
When did TFL disallow the use of tip down seats as IIIRC there was always one on old GAL Volvo B7TLs? Also what was the reasoning for this change in tfl requirement I think it was mostly to try and help give wheelchair users greater priority over the space, and possibly people missing the seat when they went to sit down as it had tipped back up. Ironically, it has remained acceptable for tube trains to have them as well as buses in the rest of the UK
|
|
ZiyQ
Conductor
I am new here, but I have a lot to say about London's buses - perhaps too much sometimes...
Posts: 79
|
Post by ZiyQ on Jul 31, 2024 23:46:27 GMT
A word on The lesser spotted 76 at Waterloo. Sad to say but the level of service to Waterloo is absymal since Arriva gained the route. My journeys from Dalston are regularly cut short at Aldwych and its laughable when it reaches the Strand that the inevitable final destination of this bus has changed will ring from the tannoy.. Yes I can access buses from there to waterloo but once settled on a bus you expect to reach your intended destination and its frustrating how often I have to change now. There was never this level of stopping and changing when Go Ahead NP ran the service and the 76 is contracted to finish at Lower Marsh. Pull your finger out Arriva. Arriva's bus service around North London seems to be generally okay, and it's perhaps the amount of traffic and roadworks that are unfortunately so frequent now around Central London. I used to frequently use the 76 under Go-Ahead, and knew some of the staff who used to drive the route. The service level was definitely better under NP, and there were often South Western staff taking the bus end-to-end from Waterloo to Tottenham Hale. However, I haven't seen too much of a general decline in service, and there aren't too many turns from my recent observations on the route. I may be biased in my preference for NP, but the Arriva service doesn't seem to be as terrible your observations.
|
|
|
Post by DE20106 on Aug 1, 2024 8:57:29 GMT
Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. Copied from GAL it’s now irrelevant to GAL Just purely out of interest, do you prefer driving the HVs on the 2/249/468 or the HTs on the 202? Just curious to know which ones are better or more liked etc
|
|
|
Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2024 10:37:44 GMT
Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. Copied from GAL it’s now irrelevant to GAL Just purely out of interest, do you prefer driving the HVs on the 2/249/468 or the HTs on the 202? Just curious to know which ones are better or more liked etc Overall I would say I like driving both types however HVs have lighter suspension compared to HTs. The Gemini 3s are far superior to the Gemini 2s, however the G3s are slightly more jerky. The MMC I would say is definitely the most smooth to drive they rattle the least and from past experience driving ENR1-7. I’ve ranked everything I’ve driven in order Best to worst HT ENR LT HV G3 HV G2 DW DAF DW (6213-6219) T ENX New Spec (X1-6) ENL/X Old Spec SLS (The Worst vehicle known to man)
|
|