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Post by dace2 on Aug 28, 2024 10:19:35 GMT
I’m quite surprised GY were able to lose DW502 right now considering DW212, DW224, DW225 DW229 & DW240 are VOR (2+ Weeks) the 66 only went down -1 PVR and the 379 gets a +1 PVR soon . The 248 uses DWs regularly and I’m starting to see more and more DWs unfit and breaking down so I wonder if anything may have to go over replace it soon as I can’t see GY coping with 6 VOR, unreliable LTs and now 1 DW transferred out. EDIT: 2x VOR LT’s as well. it should also be mentioned the 375 used a double decker when either of ENL112/ENL111 is needed to be taken out of service or unfit as the 347 cannot take DD’s. Speaking of this, LT177 hasn't been used since mid December 2022 and is marked VOR. Does anyone know what happened to it?
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Post by LondonTransport_Central on Aug 28, 2024 10:55:59 GMT
I’m quite surprised GY were able to lose DW502 right now considering DW212, DW224, DW225 DW229 & DW240 are VOR (2+ Weeks) the 66 only went down -1 PVR and the 379 gets a +1 PVR soon . The 248 uses DWs regularly and I’m starting to see more and more DWs unfit and breaking down so I wonder if anything may have to go over replace it soon as I can’t see GY coping with 6 VOR, unreliable LTs and now 1 DW transferred out. EDIT: 2x VOR LT’s as well. it should also be mentioned the 375 used a double decker when either of ENL112/ENL111 is needed to be taken out of service or unfit as the 347 cannot take DD’s. Speaking of this, LT177 hasn't been used since mid December 2022 and is marked VOR. Does anyone know what happened to it? I saw it at GY about a couple months ago back in June and I saw it sitting there with the engine open as I visited the garage to check for something! And DW212 I saw it slowly stripping down! Doesn’t have a right wing mirror and some parts! Although right now idk the future for them both!
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Post by DW221 on Aug 28, 2024 11:21:07 GMT
I’m quite surprised GY were able to lose DW502 right now considering DW212, DW224, DW225 DW229 & DW240 are VOR (2+ Weeks) the 66 only went down -1 PVR and the 379 gets a +1 PVR soon . The 248 uses DWs regularly and I’m starting to see more and more DWs unfit and breaking down so I wonder if anything may have to go over replace it soon as I can’t see GY coping with 6 VOR, unreliable LTs and now 1 DW transferred out. EDIT: 2x VOR LT’s as well. it should also be mentioned the 375 used a double decker when either of ENL112/ENL111 is needed to be taken out of service or unfit as the 347 cannot take DD’s. Yhyh as much as I love these DWs with all their character and how nippy some of them are, ofc theyre getting older now like any bus does. DW214 broke down today at Romford Market on the 103s too 🥲 Not sure why DT needs 502, its probably just there covering for buses that are vor.
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Post by LondonTransport_Central on Aug 28, 2024 11:30:41 GMT
I’m quite surprised GY were able to lose DW502 right now considering DW212, DW224, DW225 DW229 & DW240 are VOR (2+ Weeks) the 66 only went down -1 PVR and the 379 gets a +1 PVR soon . The 248 uses DWs regularly and I’m starting to see more and more DWs unfit and breaking down so I wonder if anything may have to go over replace it soon as I can’t see GY coping with 6 VOR, unreliable LTs and now 1 DW transferred out. EDIT: 2x VOR LT’s as well. it should also be mentioned the 375 used a double decker when either of ENL112/ENL111 is needed to be taken out of service or unfit as the 347 cannot take DD’s. Yhyh as much as I love these DWs with all their character and how nippy some of them are, ofc theyre getting older now like any bus does. DW214 broke down today at Romford Market on the 103s too 🥲 Not sure why DT needs 502, its probably just there covering for buses that are vor. DW233 broke down at Chase Cross on Saturday at Mashiters Hill! These DW’s are getting so tired now!
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Post by mkay315 on Aug 28, 2024 12:53:34 GMT
Does anyone know what the allocation for the 149 is. I always remembered it being the late 500s series to the early 600s series. But I've seen a lot of late 400s series and a few 200s series on there. I think I may have missed the swap around of batches. I know some of the 200s series were on the 38 and the 400s series on the 73.
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 28, 2024 13:37:24 GMT
Does anyone know what the allocation for the 149 is. I always remembered it being the late 500s series to the early 600s series. But I've seen a lot of late 400s series and a few 200s series on there. I think I may have missed the swap around of batches. I know some of the 200s series were on the 38 and the 400s series on the 73. All the LTs are a bit of a mix, some LTs are from 185-191, a couple of 200 series, along with original allocation LT561-581 IIRC. A lot have moved in the "busical chairs" as some moved to Stamford Hill with the 19, and other buses moved in from Edmonton with the 259. Best to look for fleet lists for a definitive answer, not sure if you can find garage allocations on LVF or search "AL LT*" on LVF and work out from route number what is typically on the 149 / 259
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dace2
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Post by dace2 on Aug 28, 2024 13:44:26 GMT
Does anyone know what the allocation for the 149 is. I always remembered it being the late 500s series to the early 600s series. But I've seen a lot of late 400s series and a few 200s series on there. I think I may have missed the swap around of batches. I know some of the 200s series were on the 38 and the 400s series on the 73. The original allocation for 149 was LTs such as LT513-516 LT564-601. It had a reduction with the 500s series going to 259 which the 259 was allocated LT564-582 (now its LT564-581 as LT582 transferred to SF) Right now it's allocation is LT183, 185, 187-188, 191-192, 194-202, 214-215, 464-466, 471-475, 477, 488-490, 492, 494, 514 which were used on 149.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 28, 2024 13:54:00 GMT
Does anyone know what the allocation for the 149 is. I always remembered it being the late 500s series to the early 600s series. But I've seen a lot of late 400s series and a few 200s series on there. I think I may have missed the swap around of batches. I know some of the 200s series were on the 38 and the 400s series on the 73. The original allocation for 149 was LTs such as LT513-516 LT564-601. It had a reduction with the 500s series going to 259 which the 259 was allocated LT564-582 (now its LT564-581 as LT582 transferred to SF) Right now it's allocation is LT183, 185, 187-188, 191-192, 194-202, 214-215, 464-466, 471-475, 477, 488-490, 492, 494, 514 which were used on 149. Is this 100% accurate?
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dace2
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Post by dace2 on Aug 28, 2024 14:07:43 GMT
The original allocation for 149 was LTs such as LT513-516 LT564-601. It had a reduction with the 500s series going to 259 which the 259 was allocated LT564-582 (now its LT564-581 as LT582 transferred to SF) Right now it's allocation is LT183, 185, 187-188, 191-192, 194-202, 214-215, 464-466, 471-475, 477, 488-490, 492, 494, 514 which were used on 149. Is this 100% accurate? Those were the buses used and some of them last used on 149 and some being VOR.
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Post by COBO on Aug 28, 2024 14:24:21 GMT
When the 2 went to Crystal Palace did it run in two sections?
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Post by mkay315 on Aug 28, 2024 14:35:32 GMT
Does anyone know what the allocation for the 149 is. I always remembered it being the late 500s series to the early 600s series. But I've seen a lot of late 400s series and a few 200s series on there. I think I may have missed the swap around of batches. I know some of the 200s series were on the 38 and the 400s series on the 73. All the LTs are a bit of a mix, some LTs are from 185-191, a couple of 200 series, along with original allocation LT561-581 IIRC. A lot have moved in the "busical chairs" as some moved to Stamford Hill with the 19, and other buses moved in from Edmonton with the 259. Best to look for fleet lists for a definitive answer, not sure if you can find garage allocations on LVF or search "AL LT*" on LVF and work out from route number what is typically on the 149 / 259 Ever since a few years ago where the allocations from other LT routes were mixed I lost track. Hahahaha. This reminds me of the metrobuses when they used to be in London. They near enough had the same interior but you could change the series and most wouldn't bat an eyelid on them it's only the enthusiasts that would notice the difference between the Cummins and Gardener engines.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 28, 2024 15:14:14 GMT
Those were the buses used and some of them last used on 149 and some being VOR. That doesn't mean they are the official allocation - the 19, 149 & 259 all run from AR and will invariably mix with each other. I know your correct when you say the 259 is officially ex 149 LT's
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Post by vjaska on Aug 28, 2024 15:17:22 GMT
When the 2 went to Crystal Palace did it run in two sections? Yes, Brixton to Crystal Palace and Marylebone to Norwood Garage. This ended when the Brixton to Crystal Palace journeys were renumbered 432 in 2003 which also coincided with the 2 being diverted away from Marylebone to Baker Street before returning to Marylebone in 2007
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Post by ServerKing on Aug 28, 2024 15:19:11 GMT
When the 2 went to Crystal Palace did it run in two sections? In 1954, 2A ran from West Norwood (via Tulse Hill, Brixton, Marble Arch and Swiss Cottage) to Golders Green, around 1974 a section of the route became part of the 172, and the remaing 2A between Victoria via Morval Rd, Dalberg Rd / Brixton Water Lane, Dulwich Rd and Robson Rd ran to West Norwood. There was also a 2B, though I don't know its route. 2B or not 2B, that is the question
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 28, 2024 15:33:46 GMT
Weren't the VLWs new to the 275 as well? Wow. I was completely wrong there then. The VLW's weren't new for the 275, they were shifted over from another garage as initially, the 275 was expecting brand new VLA's which was then cancelled as Arriva decided to put the new VLAs on to the 123. I think the VLWs were around 2 years old by the time the 275 got them. There was some new VLW's but I cannot remember if they were for the 20 or 275
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