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Post by adl on Sept 4, 2024 14:15:16 GMT
Interestingly I noted ok one of the newer GY blindest, it features ‘North Romford, Hillrise Estate’ and ‘North Romford, Chase across’ - The 175 makes sense as it’s reverted back to the North Romford IBUS destination recently, the 103 however on IBUS still appears as Chase Cross, I do wonder whether TFL may revert it back to North Romford, Chase Cross as it’s appearing on blinds, the Chase Cross blind remains still but it’s an additional blind, saw it on one of the LTs which also feature the Romford, Mercury Gardens rename for the 370. Is that what the are is known as? North Romford sounds like one of those incredibly broad descriptions for an area given everything north of Romford is technically North Romford. I'd of thought "Chase Cross, Hillrise Estate" for the 175 and just "Chase Cross" for the 103 would make a lot more sense especially as the final stop on the 103 is simply called "Chase Cross"? Not as such, but in the 2000’s the bus terminus was referred with the North Romford destination, then they dropped it, they’ve now reinstated it on the 175 and the blinds could indicate the 103 in the foreseeable soon too. Technically it’s just outside of the Collier Row region but I have heard of Collier Row area referred to as North Romford.
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 4, 2024 17:40:12 GMT
I don't know if in the latter stages of DB ownership Arriva held off maintaining or repainting older stuff (but even the HVs at Tottenham haven't seen a refurb for the past 7 years) and things are more shabby than other operators. I'm now working in the heart of Metdoline country (Brent) and seeing smartly painted 14 plate VWH's and firly tidy RATP E200s and B5LH's and it seems like Arriva is the Dirty Man of London... Even the ENRs have not had much in the way of TLC, barely a wash since they came from DT to AR and the 318. I know there has been the refurbs at Bus & Coach, but in general it seems presentation could be improved Under DB a lot changed in terms of how money was spent. Prior to DB buses used to get repainted a lot, some were done external, but a lot used to be done at Enfield garage. Some years ago now, many of the team at Enfield were wound down and not replaced. They hardly ever do full repaints anymore and only concentrate on accident repair work. I am not sure which HV's at [AR] require refurbs contractually, as I am sure none of them are due. They are not going to just repaint buses anymore for the fun of it or for you to get your fix. As for the ENR's they should get done, and yes they do get washed. Many of them actually need to be jetwashed manually as the bus wash hardly does much in taking out ingrained dirt and oil. I'm not sure if HV271 and 277 sustained any damage, or accumulation of adhesive from multiple wraps, and with most of the HVs it's just the vinyls are looking a little tired and grubby. ENR2 is the worst offender, the rest don't look bad. I assume the HVs could get refurbished while GY use Ts from the 279 as a stop gap as it was suggested... but I guess that means type training for Electroliners will start soon on the 279 for that to happen?
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Post by adl on Sept 4, 2024 18:07:00 GMT
Under DB a lot changed in terms of how money was spent. Prior to DB buses used to get repainted a lot, some were done external, but a lot used to be done at Enfield garage. Some years ago now, many of the team at Enfield were wound down and not replaced. They hardly ever do full repaints anymore and only concentrate on accident repair work. I am not sure which HV's at [AR] require refurbs contractually, as I am sure none of them are due. They are not going to just repaint buses anymore for the fun of it or for you to get your fix. As for the ENR's they should get done, and yes they do get washed. Many of them actually need to be jetwashed manually as the bus wash hardly does much in taking out ingrained dirt and oil. I'm not sure if HV271 and 277 sustained any damage, or accumulation of adhesive from multiple wraps, and with most of the HVs it's just the vinyls are looking a little tired and grubby. ENR2 is the worst offender, the rest don't look bad. I assume the HVs could get refurbished while GY use Ts from the 279 as a stop gap as it was suggested... but I guess that means type training for Electroliners will start soon on the 279 for that to happen? So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced?
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Sept 4, 2024 18:39:53 GMT
I'm not sure if HV271 and 277 sustained any damage, or accumulation of adhesive from multiple wraps, and with most of the HVs it's just the vinyls are looking a little tired and grubby. ENR2 is the worst offender, the rest don't look bad. I assume the HVs could get refurbished while GY use Ts from the 279 as a stop gap as it was suggested... but I guess that means type training for Electroliners will start soon on the 279 for that to happen? So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced? Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 341 CT - 38??? SF - 253???
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Post by abellion on Sept 4, 2024 18:45:27 GMT
So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced? Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 149 perhaps??? CT - 38??? SF - 253??? The 341 at AR had them, and there are images of Ts on the 38 too however those might have been when it was at AE with the 78 rather than CT
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Post by WH241 on Sept 4, 2024 19:10:04 GMT
I think I have missed some posts but what's the reason for E400s going into GY if Hybrids will eventually arrive for the 66,103 and 370?
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 4, 2024 19:25:52 GMT
So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced? Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 341 CT - 38??? SF - 253??? N - 157 (TH) 417
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Sept 4, 2024 19:26:45 GMT
Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 341 CT - 38??? SF - 253??? N - 157 (TH) 417 Thank you - knew I'd forgotten one of the South London ones!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 4, 2024 19:59:24 GMT
So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced? Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 341 CT - 38??? SF - 253??? Also to add the 135 at DX
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Post by redexpress on Sept 4, 2024 20:14:40 GMT
Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 149 perhaps??? CT - 38??? SF - 253??? The 341 at AR had them, and there are images of Ts on the 38 too however those might have been when it was at AE with the 78 rather than CT The Ts for the 38 were at CT. The only buses that AE have housed for the 38 are the artics and a small batch of LTs.
I can't think of any Ts based at SF though.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 4, 2024 20:20:20 GMT
SF is definitely the only garage that has never had Ts based there.
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Post by Volvo on Sept 4, 2024 20:26:27 GMT
So are the Ts coming to just the 66 or the entire DW fleet at GY replaced? Does this also mean every Arriva garage has had Ts? GY - 66 now TH - 64/198/250/289 DT - 229/428/492 BN - 417 TC - 412/466 E - 279 AD - 102/329 WN - 329/W3 EC - 217 DX - 150/173/368 AE - 78/168 AR - 341 CT - 38??? SF - 253??? SF has not had any T's
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 4, 2024 20:27:16 GMT
SF is definitely the only garage that has never had Ts based there. Did SF have any of the previous Ts?
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 4, 2024 22:46:00 GMT
I think I have missed some posts but what's the reason for E400s going into GY if Hybrids will eventually arrive for the 66,103 and 370? The BZLs for the 243 and 341 are due next year, new contract with hybrids for the 66/103/370 , but those hybrids can't leave Tottenham until those electrics arrive. 279 is rolling out Elecroliners soon, freeing up T's currently on the 279. More complications as the 217 has taken some of those T's from the W3 as the 217 allocation gets up to full size from 6 buses when taken over from Sullivans. DWs at GY are getting worn out on demanding routes and are at age limit. Not sure how many hybrids can leave Tottenham as some always are on the 41 and 123. 41 will get electrics next year. Tottenham needs electrfyibg soon.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 4, 2024 23:46:58 GMT
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