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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 4, 2024 1:25:25 GMT
Not really, trying using some of those T’s Depends what T’s… 279 & W3 batch is pretty decent but the TH ones certainly arent… Its most sad for me to see them going as they've been here for years and are the last interesting buses on my local routes per say… GY is basically known for them at this point and them Ts dont have the same character as a DW for me personally. More or less the DWs being amazing for me and not any hatred for Ts Theyve had a good 15 years of London service, I will enjoy them as for long as I can now I beg to differ. The 279 and W3 T's are not that much better, only just marginally newer. Many have just as bad re-occurring faults and are slower. Only plus is they burn less fuel.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 4, 2024 1:25:42 GMT
it's unlikely all of the drivers at GY are type trained for the E400- whilst they may be commonplace elsewhere, GY has never had an allocation of them. Many of the drivers on the longer standing rotas (66 and 370) may never have driven an E400 considering the routes went from E200 to DW operation. The E400s from DT were used rarely on the 370, even more so on the 66, so may have been DT drivers covering a duty. Ah okay, still the E200s and E400 cannot be that dissimilar, ones a double deck variant of the other. They may look similar, but they are not, completely different chassis. The feel and drive of them is different. Only some of the cab interior layout is the same.
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 4, 2024 4:49:46 GMT
DW501 on route 248 right now, side blinds ripped in half with it saying ‘66 Le’ - Front blind says 248 North Romford, Parkside Avenue broken fabric on seats. Shame the only powerblinded bus that works all routes is not functioning, I mean the side blind has been ripped for at least a month, the front destination being broke is is new. Isn't it fair to say that Arriva have all but given up on their older buses. I've never seen so many of their elder buses looking shabby and worn out. On the 289 alone, there are 3 buses which have damaged or non-working blinds, one has 289 but no destination blind, another has a white background with 289 in black marker pen saying '289', another seems to be permennatly stuck on 2, side and back. This has been the situation since the route went DD months ago. I understand and in all honesty, a bit bored of the saying "better than a shabby bus than none at all" but come on, take some pride and look after buses irrespective of age. In contrast, Stagecoach's Enviro 61 plates seem to be in a much better condition than Arriva's equivalents. I don't know if in the latter stages of DB ownership Arriva held off maintaining or repainting older stuff (but even the HVs at Tottenham haven't seen a refurb for the past 7 years) and things are more shabby than other operators. I'm now working in the heart of Metdoline country (Brent) and seeing smartly painted 14 plate VWH's and firly tidy RATP E200s and B5LH's and it seems like Arriva is the Dirty Man of London... Even the ENRs have not had much in the way of TLC, barely a wash since they came from DT to AR and the 318. I know there has been the refurbs at Bus & Coach, but in general it seems presentation could be improved
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Post by adl on Sept 4, 2024 9:42:27 GMT
Is the 370 currently considered a low frequency route as buses run every 15-20 minutes, 30 (I believe) in the evenings. I assume This changes to high frequency when the routes become every 12 minutes in November.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 4, 2024 9:50:30 GMT
Is the 370 currently considered a low frequency route as buses run every 15-20 minutes, 30 (I believe) in the evenings. I assume This changes to high frequency when the routes become every 12 minutes in November. It is currently a low frequency route. 15 Minutes and after is classed as low frequency. It will become a high frequency route in November.
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Post by cybermike137 on Sept 4, 2024 11:01:40 GMT
Is the 370 currently considered a low frequency route as buses run every 15-20 minutes, 30 (I believe) in the evenings. I assume This changes to high frequency when the routes become every 12 minutes in November. The 198 runs every 20 minutes on Sunday and still high frequency. I'm wondering what the line is between low and high frequency
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 4, 2024 11:11:01 GMT
Isn't it fair to say that Arriva have all but given up on their older buses. I've never seen so many of their elder buses looking shabby and worn out. On the 289 alone, there are 3 buses which have damaged or non-working blinds, one has 289 but no destination blind, another has a white background with 289 in black marker pen saying '289', another seems to be permennatly stuck on 2, side and back. This has been the situation since the route went DD months ago. I understand and in all honesty, a bit bored of the saying "better than a shabby bus than none at all" but come on, take some pride and look after buses irrespective of age. In contrast, Stagecoach's Enviro 61 plates seem to be in a much better condition than Arriva's equivalents. I don't know if in the latter stages of DB ownership Arriva held off maintaining or repainting older stuff (but even the HVs at Tottenham haven't seen a refurb for the past 7 years) and things are more shabby than other operators. I'm now working in the heart of Metdoline country (Brent) and seeing smartly painted 14 plate VWH's and firly tidy RATP E200s and B5LH's and it seems like Arriva is the Dirty Man of London... Even the ENRs have not had much in the way of TLC, barely a wash since they came from DT to AR and the 318. I know there has been the refurbs at Bus & Coach, but in general it seems presentation could be improved Under DB a lot changed in terms of how money was spent. Prior to DB buses used to get repainted a lot, some were done external, but a lot used to be done at Enfield garage. Some years ago now, many of the team at Enfield were wound down and not replaced. They hardly ever do full repaints anymore and only concentrate on accident repair work. I am not sure which HV's at [AR] require refurbs contractually, as I am sure none of them are due. They are not going to just repaint buses anymore for the fun of it or for you to get your fix. As for the ENR's they should get done, and yes they do get washed. Many of them actually need to be jetwashed manually as the bus wash hardly does much in taking out ingrained dirt and oil.
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Post by PGAT on Sept 4, 2024 11:12:41 GMT
Is the 370 currently considered a low frequency route as buses run every 15-20 minutes, 30 (I believe) in the evenings. I assume This changes to high frequency when the routes become every 12 minutes in November. The 198 runs every 20 minutes on Sunday and still high frequency. I'm wondering what the line is between low and high frequency If a route is classed as high frequency it will be treated as such even if the frequency dips below the 12min threshold
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Post by cybermike137 on Sept 4, 2024 11:33:01 GMT
The 198 runs every 20 minutes on Sunday and still high frequency. I'm wondering what the line is between low and high frequency If a route is classed as high frequency it will be treated as such even if the frequency dips below the 12min threshold Interesting to know, I just thought if the frequency goes below 20 minutes, it will be low frequency
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Post by vjaska on Sept 4, 2024 11:56:29 GMT
If a route is classed as high frequency it will be treated as such even if the frequency dips below the 12min threshold Interesting to know, I just thought if the frequency goes below 20 minutes, it will be low frequency It’s based on the highest frequency it operates throughout a week. The 198 is every 12 minutes on most days so it would fall under a high frequency because it’s more than the 15 minute threshold
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Post by cybermike137 on Sept 4, 2024 12:28:54 GMT
Interesting to know, I just thought if the frequency goes below 20 minutes, it will be low frequency It’s based on the highest frequency it operates throughout a week. The 198 is every 12 minutes on most days so it would fall under a high frequency because it’s more than the 15 minute threshold Very interesting to know thank you for the info
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Post by adl on Sept 4, 2024 13:12:58 GMT
Interestingly I noted ok one of the newer GY blindest, it features ‘North Romford, Hillrise Estate’ and ‘North Romford, Chase across’ - The 175 makes sense as it’s reverted back to the North Romford IBUS destination recently, the 103 however on IBUS still appears as Chase Cross, I do wonder whether TFL may revert it back to North Romford, Chase Cross as it’s appearing on blinds, the Chase Cross blind remains still but it’s an additional blind, saw it on one of the LTs which also feature the Romford, Mercury Gardens rename for the 370.
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Post by DW221 on Sept 4, 2024 13:27:02 GMT
Interestingly I noted ok one of the newer GY blindest, it features ‘North Romford, Hillrise Estate’ and ‘North Romford, Chase across’ - The 175 makes sense as it’s reverted back to the North Romford IBUS destination recently, the 103 however on IBUS still appears as Chase Cross, I do wonder whether TFL may revert it back to North Romford, Chase Cross as it’s appearing on blinds, the Chase Cross blind remains still but it’s an additional blind, saw it on one of the LTs which also feature the Romford, Mercury Gardens rename for the 370. those newer blinds are on DW226-246 from September 2022, pretty sure all the new ibus destinations on 103/175/370 were in place by the time the blinds were ordered
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Post by adl on Sept 4, 2024 13:32:39 GMT
Interestingly I noted ok one of the newer GY blindest, it features ‘North Romford, Hillrise Estate’ and ‘North Romford, Chase across’ - The 175 makes sense as it’s reverted back to the North Romford IBUS destination recently, the 103 however on IBUS still appears as Chase Cross, I do wonder whether TFL may revert it back to North Romford, Chase Cross as it’s appearing on blinds, the Chase Cross blind remains still but it’s an additional blind, saw it on one of the LTs which also feature the Romford, Mercury Gardens rename for the 370. those newer blinds are on DW226-246 from September 2022, pretty sure all the new ibus destinations on 103/175/370 were in place by the time the blinds were ordered I think you’ve missed my point slighly the North Romford, Chase Cross blind hasn’t been seen since around 2010 prior E400s at NS this is what I mean by potentially another change ok the 103 for its other end not just the Rainham Interchange to Rainham Station. I believe it wa phases out on a newer trident set then removed from ibus after, the 175s North Romford blind set disappeared after. EDIT: Actually the North Romford, Chase across blind was last used under the 103\ last contract with Arriva. Here’s a photo: londonbusesbyadam.zenfolio.com/103/h127c08aaThe 175 last used the North Romford blind set under East London. londonbusesbyadam.zenfolio.com/p554975661/h4891c33a
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Post by vjaska on Sept 4, 2024 13:56:43 GMT
Interestingly I noted ok one of the newer GY blindest, it features ‘North Romford, Hillrise Estate’ and ‘North Romford, Chase across’ - The 175 makes sense as it’s reverted back to the North Romford IBUS destination recently, the 103 however on IBUS still appears as Chase Cross, I do wonder whether TFL may revert it back to North Romford, Chase Cross as it’s appearing on blinds, the Chase Cross blind remains still but it’s an additional blind, saw it on one of the LTs which also feature the Romford, Mercury Gardens rename for the 370. Is that what the are is known as? North Romford sounds like one of those incredibly broad descriptions for an area given everything north of Romford is technically North Romford. I'd of thought "Chase Cross, Hillrise Estate" for the 175 and just "Chase Cross" for the 103 would make a lot more sense especially as the final stop on the 103 is simply called "Chase Cross"?
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