dace2
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Post by dace2 on Sept 30, 2024 20:03:07 GMT
Can T301-331 go through the congestion zones towards?
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Post by atb123 on Sept 30, 2024 20:04:53 GMT
Can T301-331 go through the congestion zones towards? No as they aren't hybrid and electric.
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dace2
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Post by dace2 on Sept 30, 2024 20:13:43 GMT
Can T301-331 go through the congestion zones towards? No as they aren't hybrid and electric. Although, their 2016 buses and Euro VI came in September 2015.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2024 22:21:15 GMT
No as they aren't hybrid and electric. Although, their 2016 buses and Euro VI came in September 2015. They can’t operate on TfL services within the Central London area, bordered by the ring road unless forced into the zone by a diversion. Only hybrids, hydrogen and electric buses on TfL services are allowed to do so on the above basis
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 30, 2024 22:41:57 GMT
From my understanding the Ts at GY right now are for 370s pvr increase which started today. Although I’m guessing they sent a couple more Ts over since theres always a few DWs vor anyway Makes sense to swap buses with 217, the route is still on an emergency contract I believe so in theory can use any bus alvaliable. It will still be hard to beat the Alexander-bodied Scanias that operated on the route in the 1990s. They were so fast on the A10, that in the evening it was possible to leave Watham Cross fifteen minutes late and still be on time at Turnpike Lane! There are \a few bus types that can still do that, leave near 20 minutes late and be on time before end of route.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Sept 30, 2024 22:50:07 GMT
I l thought the DWs were said to be worn out so I am surprised they are moving to the 217. Can’t believe how many different buses have been used on the 217! The variety of buses, along with the speed of the route is great! Nearly every Arriva bus type has been on it, perhaps it will be EA's, ES's and HT's sooner or later I guess with a shorter, slower dead run, the DWs won't be punished as much, then something different like electrics will take over next year. It will be good to see DW201 near her native Wood Green I never even realise it started at [WN]. Would always remember it being on the 38's
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 30, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
Although, their 2016 buses and Euro VI came in September 2015. They can’t operate on TfL services within the Central London area, bordered by the ring road unless forced into the zone by a diversion. Only hybrids, hydrogen and electric buses on TfL services are allowed to do so on the above basis Well being pedantic they can, they’ll just get fined
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2024 23:43:51 GMT
They can’t operate on TfL services within the Central London area, bordered by the ring road unless forced into the zone by a diversion. Only hybrids, hydrogen and electric buses on TfL services are allowed to do so on the above basis Well being pedantic they can, they’ll just get fined You know what I mean
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Post by yunus on Oct 1, 2024 0:05:05 GMT
I was at Gants Hill earlier waiting for a 123 guess what??? All 3x buses in a row were HVs!
Is there any chance the route will go back to fully DW? The 158 did so we shall see.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 1, 2024 0:21:25 GMT
I was at Gants Hill earlier waiting for a 123 guess what??? All 3x buses in a row were HVs! Is there any chance the route will go back to fully DW? The 158 did so we shall see. Perhaps after most of the HVs have moved on, I can see the 123 being DW / EZ operated depending on how many are ordered. I could see. Arriva ordering more than enough for a route retain, perhaps the new shape Electroliners (Wright are apparently to update the double deck model again in near future) for 158 and 217 as DWs won't last forever All speculation, we will see. I never thought I'd be seeing GY DWs on ths 217 before today anything could happen
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Post by COBO on Oct 1, 2024 1:19:48 GMT
I was at Gants Hill earlier waiting for a 123 guess what??? All 3x buses in a row were HVs! Is there any chance the route will go back to fully DW? The 158 did so we shall see. Well the 123 is operated from a garage that has routes that uses HVs so theirs a strong chance that those HVs will go onto the 123. chances of seeing HVs may diminish when the electrics arrive and enter service. The 158 went to fully DW is because it's HVs were needed elsewhere.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 1, 2024 5:04:58 GMT
I was at Gants Hill earlier waiting for a 123 guess what??? All 3x buses in a row were HVs! Is there any chance the route will go back to fully DW? The 158 did so we shall see. Well the 123 is operated from a garage that has routes that uses HVs so theirs a strong chance that those HVs will go onto the 123. chances of seeing HVs may diminish when the electrics arrive and enter service. The 158 went to fully DW is because it's HVs were needed elsewhere. I think the majority of Tottenham's HVs will be needed elsewhere to convert GY to HVs, plus routes at DX. Some will also come from AD and the 34. I think more Ts are on the move as HVs 14 and 66 are on the 217 as more GY DWs move in. DW225 on the 217 with T204 and 214.
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Post by whiggism on Oct 1, 2024 5:55:29 GMT
Apparently the low lying trees that prevent the SL5 being double decker are being set for a trim?
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 1, 2024 7:11:18 GMT
No as they aren't hybrid and electric. Although, their 2016 buses and Euro VI came in September 2015. Euro VI buses and coaches are permitted in the Congestion Charge Zone. However any bus working a TfL-contracted bus service must be hybrid, or zero-emission, this is a specific requirement. Use of a Euro VI diesel on a TfL service inside the Congestion Charge Zone may be subject to a penalty*. * but only if the operator gets found out
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Post by Volvo on Oct 1, 2024 7:41:10 GMT
It will still be hard to beat the Alexander-bodied Scanias that operated on the route in the 1990s. They were so fast on the A10, that in the evening it was possible to leave Watham Cross fifteen minutes late and still be on time at Turnpike Lane! There are \a few bus types that can still do that, leave near 20 minutes late and be on time before end of route. Definitely agree with that, some such buses are ADH45027/28 & 48, 258-261 because those things are absolutely rapid in acceleration and 27/28 & 48 are operationally quicker as as soon as the rear doors are closed you can start moving where as 258-261 have the annoying halt brake hold ADL developed for the MMC buses.
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