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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 19, 2024 22:15:42 GMT
That's for the clarification. I have to admit iv completely lost track now of what routes each batch was for and if they have been delivered now. If the 151 used them from the start would the batch for the 213 and part 57 have now been delivered? The 213's batch (Ee172-186) are mostly being temporarily used at AL on the 57 (Ee180-186), with two at A (Ee178 and 179) covering for the missing two from the 80's batch, one at Q (Ee172) in a Windrush livery, and four which havent entered service yet (Ee173-176). These would presumably all be at A if the 151 was able to use Ees. Thanks for that. So when more come for the 157 next when the chargers are ready if between then the 262 returning to Go Ahead they could have a surplus if the 151 and 333 situation isn't resolved. It also means that without an order confirmation its Still not know what timeline, type or fleet numbers are for the 101, 473, 131, 280 and 320.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jan 19, 2024 22:37:23 GMT
The 213's batch (Ee172-186) are mostly being temporarily used at AL on the 57 (Ee180-186), with two at A (Ee178 and 179) covering for the missing two from the 80's batch, one at Q (Ee172) in a Windrush livery, and four which havent entered service yet (Ee173-176). These would presumably all be at A if the 151 was able to use Ees. Thanks for that. So when more come for the 157 next when the chargers are ready if between then the 262 returning to Go Ahead they could have a surplus if the 151 and 333 situation isn't resolved. It also means that without an order confirmation its Still not know what timeline, type or fleet numbers are for the 101, 473, 131, 280 and 320. The 333 was always confirmed as converting after the contract date, the tender award and Go Ahead confirmed that. There probably is an order for the 101, 473, 131, 280 and 320 but unlike the rest confirmed by LOTS it may not be a firm order as in still undergoing testing.
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Post by Londontransport3 on Jan 19, 2024 22:37:37 GMT
Not very clued up with the Abellio allocations but surely the C3 doesn’t need all of 3031-47 so what are the excess from that for if 3059-85 are for the 133 The C3 doesn't - only the first three (3031-3) are for the C3 as a top-up, 3034-47 are for the 363. 3031-37 are 363s, 3038-47 are C3s
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 20, 2024 8:47:45 GMT
Most likely the 439 will use the 3 SEes freed from the 470 being cut back to Sutton Station, along with some strays of the 450's electrics. I would guess the S2's buses will be prioritised because it will more than likely need its electrics from day one. There are also still some small SE floating about from the 346 that could be used. As for the S2 I suspect the OM will get a short term reprise before being cast off to the scrap heap over the summer. That being said it doesn’t seem to be the vehicles causing the delays. The batches for the P12 and 152 have been in Swindon since late November for storage. Given both Sutton and Croydon are already connected it shouldn’t be a problem building out of sequence. The 450s batch entered service well before the 366/D3/265 batches were ready for use. The bigger question is how Sutton will squeeze in 9 buses when it is already, as I understand it, very tight on space. There were comments a few months back the alluded to staff from the iBus control being used as banksmen for the Ee as it’s difficult to manoeuvre them in the small space. Those three SE’s from the 346 would be perfect cover for the 439, especially seeing as SE232 is already at Croydon (though VOR currently). Otherwise, SEN41 and SEN42 could move over from MB to cover the 439 along with SEN40 and since they’re not required for any future contract they could be withdrawn when the new E200’s arrive.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jan 20, 2024 16:02:05 GMT
Curiosity of LOTS GAL 13 x BYD E200EV 10.9m (SEe 291-303) for 325 (RR) 9 x 9.7m (SEe 304-312) for S2 (A) 16 x 10.9m (SEe 313-328) for 39 (AF) 3 x 9.7m (SEe 329-331) for 439 (C) 4 x 10.9m (SEe 332-335) for 396 (RR) 12 x BYD E400EV-City 10.9m (Ee 263-273) for 262 (DS) TUK (ABELLIO) Electroliners are for: 3048 - 58 route 306 QB 3059 - 85 " 133 " 3086 - 102 " 381 WL 3103 top up for +1 PVR increase on 111 TFStagecoach the 40 Volvo BZL/MCV deckers for D7, 277 & 58 are to be 86031 - 70 NOT 68xxx. (1-30 already at Cambridge) I have to say this is certainly the most intriguing entry. I've not heard of the 111 being increased in PVR, unless this is related to an additional 481 crosslink. As I've mentioned on many occasions, the 481 is due to get an additional school journey, but I imagined that this would relate to the additional vehicle added to the route's PVR upon its transfer to Metroline.
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 20, 2024 16:10:27 GMT
Curiosity of LOTS GAL 13 x BYD E200EV 10.9m (SEe 291-303) for 325 (RR) 9 x 9.7m (SEe 304-312) for S2 (A) 16 x 10.9m (SEe 313-328) for 39 (AF) 3 x 9.7m (SEe 329-331) for 439 (C) 4 x 10.9m (SEe 332-335) for 396 (RR) 12 x BYD E400EV-City 10.9m (Ee 263-273) for 262 (DS) TUK (ABELLIO) Electroliners are for: 3048 - 58 route 306 QB 3059 - 85 " 133 " 3086 - 102 " 381 WL 3103 top up for +1 PVR increase on 111 TFStagecoach the 40 Volvo BZL/MCV deckers for D7, 277 & 58 are to be 86031 - 70 NOT 68xxx. (1-30 already at Cambridge) I have to say this is certainly the most intriguing entry. I've not heard of the 111 being increased in PVR, unless this is related to an additional 481 crosslink. As I've mentioned on many occasions, the 481 is due to get an additional school journey, but I imagined that this would relate to the additional vehicle added to the route's PVR upon its transfer to Metroline. Maybe its for the 618? Tender results are usually known by operators before they are announced, so maybe Abellio have won the 618 and have decided to crosslink it with the 111, which could certainly do with an extra vehicle given its unreliability.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jan 20, 2024 16:14:49 GMT
I have to say this is certainly the most intriguing entry. I've not heard of the 111 being increased in PVR, unless this is related to an additional 481 crosslink. As I've mentioned on many occasions, the 481 is due to get an additional school journey, but I imagined that this would relate to the additional vehicle added to the route's PVR upon its transfer to Metroline. Maybe its for the 618? Tender results are usually known by operators before they are announced, so maybe Abellio have won the 618 and have decided to crosslink it with the 111, which could certainly do with an extra vehicle given its unreliability. Or 681?
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 20, 2024 16:16:04 GMT
Maybe its for the 618? Tender results are usually known by operators before they are announced, so maybe Abellio have won the 618 and have decided to crosslink it with the 111, which could certainly do with an extra vehicle given its unreliability. Or 681? Could be, although the 681 uses 2 buses, not 1.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jan 20, 2024 16:18:19 GMT
Could be, although the 681 uses 2 buses, not 1. I thought the 618 was planned to use two.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2024 16:19:59 GMT
Could be, although the 681 uses 2 buses, not 1. I thought the 618 was planned to use two. 1 journey each direction, finishing at the Bolder Academy at 08:25 and departing at 16:00
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Post by londonbuses on Jan 20, 2024 16:21:11 GMT
Could be, although the 681 uses 2 buses, not 1. I thought the 618 was planned to use two. I believe it's going to have a PVR of 1. I think the consultation was worded badly as it said two journeys, but it meant one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
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Post by LK65EBO on Jan 20, 2024 17:45:07 GMT
How about 3103 is for, I don't know, the 111 maybe? Just a thought.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jan 20, 2024 18:04:12 GMT
Maybe its for the 618? Tender results are usually known by operators before they are announced, so maybe Abellio have won the 618 and have decided to crosslink it with the 111, which could certainly do with an extra vehicle given its unreliability. Or 681? Is 681 not at RATP?
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jan 20, 2024 18:32:26 GMT
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jan 20, 2024 18:35:22 GMT
I doubt they’d order a new bus for a tender that’s yet to be released
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