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Post by busoccultation on Mar 16, 2023 13:44:39 GMT
I would think so too. Go-Ahead seem to be standardising their electric fleet to SEes and Ees so I guess the orders for those routes will be more of the same. I would be surprised if Go Ahead order anything other than BYD/ADLs for any of the relevant routes. The only question is maybe over the lengths of some SD orders for example whether the D3 can take 10.8m SEes? Nope, 10.2m is the biggest that D3 can take due to the tight roads in the Wapping area. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 16, 2023 14:09:03 GMT
I would be surprised if Go Ahead order anything other than BYD/ADLs for any of the relevant routes. The only question is maybe over the lengths of some SD orders for example whether the D3 can take 10.8m SEes? Nope, 10.2m is the biggest that D3 can take due to the tight roads in the Wapping area. Actually forgot it uses those cobblestone streets around Wapping. Those are quite narrow from memory. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 16, 2023 14:31:02 GMT
I believe the Arriva orders have been confirmed elsewhere as Streetdecks for the 64 & 612, nothing mentioned about the 377 & 417 Fingers crossed it is Streetdecks/Electroliners for the 64. Have ridden a few now and they are really impressive bits of kit. 417 seems plausible to be more EAs and 377 is interesting as E100EV not available yet - so Metrocity or something like Mellor Sigma 8🤔 Having rode one for myself on the U5 last Saturday, I was quite impressed by the Electroliner, was also impressed by my Hydroliner ride a while back on the 245 so wouldn't mind Electroliners on the 417 alongside the other routes  (though, downstairs rear aside, I don't mind the BYD ADL either) |
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Post by ADH45258 on Mar 16, 2023 14:38:50 GMT
I would be surprised if Go Ahead order anything other than BYD/ADLs for any of the relevant routes. The only question is maybe over the lengths of some SD orders for example whether the D3 can take 10.8m SEes? Nope, 10.2m is the biggest that D3 can take due to the tight roads in the Wapping area. Is there a reason why the D3 can take 10.2m, but the 100 seems to be limited to 9.7m? Also note that routes like the 226 and W15 were limited to 10.2m with E20Ds, but could fit the longer BYDs, so might also be the case with the D3? I expect Go Ahead would prefer to have a common fleet between the 376 and D3 if possible. |
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Post by DE20106 on Mar 16, 2023 15:09:00 GMT
I believe the Arriva orders have been confirmed elsewhere as Streetdecks for the 64 & 612, nothing mentioned about the 377 & 417 Fingers crossed it is Streetdecks/Electroliners for the 64. Have ridden a few now and they are really impressive bits of kit. 417 seems plausible to be more EAs and 377 is interesting as E100EV not available yet - so Metrocity or something like Mellor Sigma 8🤔 Havent done an Electroliner yet but if they are that good what a contrast to the diesel version, arguably one of the worst buses ever made! Have to say wasn’t holding out much hope for the electroliner due to how poor its diesel counterpart is in nearly every aspect. We’ll have to see how their reliability holds up as that really is a StreetDeck’s achilles heel. |
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Post by abellion on Mar 16, 2023 15:20:58 GMT
Fingers crossed it is Streetdecks/Electroliners for the 64. Have ridden a few now and they are really impressive bits of kit. 417 seems plausible to be more EAs and 377 is interesting as E100EV not available yet - so Metrocity or something like Mellor Sigma 8🤔 Havent done an Electroliner yet but if they are that good what a contrast to the diesel version, arguably one of the worst buses ever made! Have to say wasn’t holding out much hope for the electroliner due to how poor its diesel counterpart is in nearly every aspect. We’ll have to see how their reliability holds up as that really is a StreetDeck’s achilles heel. The EAs look lovely with the Arriva livery so I'm looking forward to them finally getting some more new buses. They will have to actively sabotage the buses to make them any worse than a Streetdeck |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 16, 2023 16:10:29 GMT
Nope, 10.2m is the biggest that D3 can take due to the tight roads in the Wapping area. Is there a reason why the D3 can take 10.2m, but the 100 seems to be limited to 9.7m? Also note that routes like the 226 and W15 were limited to 10.2m with E20Ds, but could fit the longer BYDs, so might also be the case with the D3? I expect Go Ahead would prefer to have a common fleet between the 376 and D3 if possible. The 100 and D3 have different routes through Shadwell and Wapping, the roads and turns the 100 takes are even more constrained than those used by the D3. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Mar 16, 2023 17:00:33 GMT
Havent done an Electroliner yet but if they are that good what a contrast to the diesel version, arguably one of the worst buses ever made! Have to say wasn’t holding out much hope for the electroliner due to how poor its diesel counterpart is in nearly every aspect. We’ll have to see how their reliability holds up as that really is a StreetDeck’s achilles heel. The EAs look lovely with the Arriva livery so I'm looking forward to them finally getting some more new buses. They will have to actively sabotage the buses to make them any worse than a Streetdeck What livery? It’s just plain red with an Arriva logo |
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Post by abellion on Mar 16, 2023 17:25:47 GMT
The EAs look lovely with the Arriva livery so I'm looking forward to them finally getting some more new buses. They will have to actively sabotage the buses to make them any worse than a Streetdeck What livery? It’s just plain red with an Arriva logo Interior colour*  |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 16, 2023 18:01:30 GMT
TLB also show Ee's for the 57.  They could of course just be making assumptions based on previous orders and things might change Latest TLB (March) has orders for : Abellio routes E5, E7 Arriva routes : 64, 377, 417, 612 GoAhead routes 40, 57, 152, 185, 376, 450, D3, P12 Metroline route 83 Reading Green line routes 702, 703 Do we know what has actually been ordered or just that an order has been placed for new buses? |
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Post by YX10FFN on Mar 16, 2023 18:37:07 GMT
After a series of confirmed orders today, here are outstanding orders yet to be confirmed:
Abellio: 363
Go Ahead: 157, 213, 265, 366
Metroline: 228, 316
Stagecoach: 86, 199, 276
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Post by yunus on Mar 16, 2023 18:42:02 GMT
After a series of confirmed orders today, here are outstanding orders yet to be confirmed: Abellio: 363 Go Ahead: 157, 213, 265, 366 Metroline: 228, 316 Stagecoach: 86, 199, 276 You beat me to it lol, I predict the 199 will get BYDs to suit the 160s. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 16, 2023 18:46:43 GMT
After a series of confirmed orders today, here are outstanding orders yet to be confirmed: Abellio: 363 Go Ahead: 157, 213, 265, 366 Metroline: 228, 316 Stagecoach: 86, 199, 276 I’d be surprised if Go Ahead haven’t ordered anything for the 213, 265 or 366. I expect they have ordered ADL but just haven’t formally announced it. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Mar 16, 2023 18:47:22 GMT
After a series of confirmed orders today, here are outstanding orders yet to be confirmed: Abellio: 363 Go Ahead: 157, 213, 265, 366 Metroline: 228, 316 Stagecoach: 86, 199, 276 You beat me to it lol, I predict the 199 will get BYDs to suit the 160s. Probably 86 aswell. |
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Post by LK65EBO on Mar 16, 2023 18:50:04 GMT
After a series of confirmed orders today, here are outstanding orders yet to be confirmed: Abellio: 363 Go Ahead: 157, 213, 265, 366 Metroline: 228, 316 Stagecoach: 86, 199, 276 E2 and E8? |
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(though, downstairs rear aside, I don't mind the BYD ADL either)
