|
Post by SILENCED on Nov 11, 2020 19:28:27 GMT
Reports indicate that Croydon Council have beaten TfL to issuing a s114 notice. Croydon, the bankrupt Borough, thanks to incompetent councillors who ignored the warning from their own auditors over the past few years as to how precarious their financial position is/was! Just continued to spend spend spend, what they had not got, and some of it very dubious financial astuteness. Hope this does not turn out to be true. Edit ... now being reported on BBC, so seems true. Sadly I’m not at all surprised to see this happen. Croydon Council are incompetent at the best of times. I think I’m right in saying the constant delays over the delivery of Westfield Croydon has contributed to this along with the pandemic and it has been dragging on for way too long. Had it been built as scheduled in 2013 Croydon would be a completely different place, in pre-Covid times at least. No doubt this will mean our council taxes will rise... Sadly this has nothing to do with the pandemic. ~83% of the 2014 reserves had been spent pre-covid. Their own auditors warned in 2017 reserves were below what was required, as currently they were insufficient if there was any disruption to revenue. Sadly since then and despite, further warning from the auditors, we had the pandemic and the warnings were proven correct. They were hoping to get relief from COVID protection, but Croydon has been told their troubles are caused from pre COVID actions and not as result of the pandemic, thus Croydon lost its hoped for get out of jail free card. Westfield was their baby, if they have mismanaged the project, then they only have themselves to blame ... the auditors report stated the willingness for the council to take unacceptable risks, so this was probably part of it. Thank you Cllrs Newman, Butler, Scott and the diminutive Negrini ... you have certainly left a lasting legacy for the Croydon Council tax payer .... what services will get slashed first? To keep this slightly relevant to this thread, wonder how much money they owe TfL.
|
|
|
Post by TB123 on Nov 11, 2020 19:39:29 GMT
Reports indicate that Croydon Council have beaten TfL to issuing a s114 notice. Croydon, the bankrupt Borough, thanks to incompetent councillors who ignored the warning from their own auditors over the past few years as to how precarious their financial position is/was! Just continued to spend spend spend, what they had not got, and some of it very dubious financial astuteness. Hope this does not turn out to be true. Edit ... now being reported on BBC, so seems true. Very shocking news but not surprising to be honest. Croydon Council is arguably the worst council in London. Saying they are incompetent is an understatement. Goodness, the sooner I move away from this area the better to be honest. Nailed it.
|
|
|
Post by TB123 on Nov 11, 2020 19:41:25 GMT
Reports indicate that Croydon Council have beaten TfL to issuing a s114 notice. Croydon, the bankrupt Borough, thanks to incompetent councillors who ignored the warning from their own auditors over the past few years as to how precarious their financial position is/was! Just continued to spend spend spend, what they had not got, and some of it very dubious financial astuteness. Hope this does not turn out to be true. Edit ... now being reported on BBC, so seems true. A total total disgrace.
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Nov 11, 2020 19:45:12 GMT
Reports indicate that Croydon Council have beaten TfL to issuing a s114 notice. Croydon, the bankrupt Borough, thanks to incompetent councillors who ignored the warning from their own auditors over the past few years as to how precarious their financial position is/was! Just continued to spend spend spend, what they had not got, and some of it very dubious financial astuteness. Hope this does not turn out to be true. Edit ... now being reported on BBC, so seems true. Very shocking news but not surprising to be honest. Croydon Council is arguably the worst council in London. Saying they are incompetent is an understatement. Goodness, the sooner I move away from this area the better to be honest. Don't live in Lambeth then as you'll be moving from one incompetent lot to another
|
|
|
Post by COBO on Dec 25, 2020 2:56:52 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less.
|
|
|
Post by southlondonbus on Dec 25, 2020 12:06:50 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. Sorry I'm not sure what you are suggesting?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 15:13:39 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. You do realise that not having staff at stations means the gates need to be left open, meaning that people are much less likely to pay for their journey, meaning that LU/TfL will lose out on revenue which undermines the whole purpose of your suggestion. Also, most of our stations have 'minimum numbers' which is the minimum number of staff needed to operate a station and deal with an emergency evacuation etc. If we go below minimum numbers we have to close the station for safety reasons. Out of interest - who would LO be sold to and why would this help the financial situation?
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Dec 25, 2020 16:09:56 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. You do realise that not having staff at stations means the gates need to be left open, meaning that people are much less likely to pay for their journey, meaning that LU/TfL will lose out on revenue which undermines the whole purpose of your suggestion. Also, most of our stations have 'minimum numbers' which is the minimum number of staff needed to operate a station and deal with an emergency evacuation etc. If we go below minimum numbers we have to close the station for safety reasons. Out of interest - who would LO be sold to and why would this help the financial situation? I can only guess he thinks that they would use the money to ease their financial situation?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 16:51:58 GMT
You do realise that not having staff at stations means the gates need to be left open, meaning that people are much less likely to pay for their journey, meaning that LU/TfL will lose out on revenue which undermines the whole purpose of your suggestion. Also, most of our stations have 'minimum numbers' which is the minimum number of staff needed to operate a station and deal with an emergency evacuation etc. If we go below minimum numbers we have to close the station for safety reasons. Out of interest - who would LO be sold to and why would this help the financial situation? I can only guess he thinks that they would use the money to ease their financial situation? Surely when ARL is making a profit of nearly £10m by operating LO, it would be wiser to keep it subcontracted or even bring it in-house rather than sell it off to a separate operator completely?
|
|
|
Post by SILENCED on Dec 25, 2020 17:04:01 GMT
I can only guess he thinks that they would use the money to ease their financial situation? Surely when ARL is making a profit of nearly £10m by operating LO, it would be wiser to keep it subcontracted or even bring it in-house rather than sell it off to a separate operator completely? That would depend on how much any third party would be willing to pay.
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Dec 25, 2020 17:41:03 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. I don't know if this is a serious suggestion but there is no way underground stations can be left unstaffed.
|
|
|
Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 25, 2020 17:56:38 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. I don't know if this is a serious suggestion but there is no way underground stations can be left unstaffed. I believe they have a minimum staffing requirement, especially for those that are underground. I remember there was a period last year when Temple would always end up shut because of a staff shortage and even during Covid some stations were shut due to staff shortages. I think some stations above ground can be left unstaffed depending on how "basic" they are, I believe some stations on either the Wimbledon or Richmond branch of the District a few years ago would be left unattended with their gates open for a few hours at a time as one staff member would be in charge of three stations.
|
|
|
Post by COBO on Dec 25, 2020 17:59:20 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. I don't know if this is a serious suggestion but there is no way underground stations can be left unstaffed. Not the whispers from TfL that I’ve been hearing.
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Dec 25, 2020 18:08:26 GMT
I don't know if this is a serious suggestion but there is no way underground stations can be left unstaffed. Not the whispers from TfL that I’ve been hearing. I would take them with a pinch of salt, as mentioned above deep level tube stations close if insufficient staff are available. It may be possible at some surface level stations but I think even that is unlikely.
|
|
|
Post by COBO on Dec 25, 2020 22:31:47 GMT
TfL sells of London Overground and make all London Underground station staff less. You do realise that not having staff at stations means the gates need to be left open, meaning that people are much less likely to pay for their journey, meaning that LU/TfL will lose out on revenue which undermines the whole purpose of your suggestion. Also, most of our stations have 'minimum numbers' which is the minimum number of staff needed to operate a station and deal with an emergency evacuation etc. If we go below minimum numbers we have to close the station for safety reasons. Out of interest - who would LO be sold to and why would this help the financial situation? What about cut down the amount of staff instead of getting rid of the staff well at the small stations?
|
|