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Post by wirewiper on May 8, 2020 15:33:00 GMT
I'd also offer to withdraw the 375 if a commercial operator was willing to accept an LLSA between Romford and Passingford Bridge with an hourly frequency - buses could operate alternatively to Debden/Loughton and Ongar.
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Post by uakari on May 8, 2020 18:51:20 GMT
The 84 would be handy too, as would making the 614 have Tfl fares/Oyster validity. (I suppose if history had turned out differently none of these are THAT fantastical though obviously unrealistic now). What is the history of why both of these routes stopped accepting TfL fares and Oyster in the London sections (the 84 up to Potters Bar, Cranborne Road), and reverted to fully commercial and Freedom Pass only? The 84 had always had the London section accepting TfL fares/Oyster, and the 614 accepted TfL fares in the London section and then had a few years of accepting Oyster as well. Is this TfL's fault again? Did they make services they don't control, which fill in the gaps they don't provide for, too unattractive in terms of the proportion of fares those companies ended up with? |
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Post by SILENCED on May 8, 2020 18:59:07 GMT
The 84 would be handy too, as would making the 614 have Tfl fares/Oyster validity. (I suppose if history had turned out differently none of these are THAT fantastical though obviously unrealistic now). What is the history of why both of these routes stopped accepting TfL fares and Oyster in the London sections (the 84 up to Potters Bar, Cranborne Road), and reverted to fully commercial and Freedom Pass only? The 84 had always had the London section accepting TfL fares/Oyster, and the 614 accepted TfL fares in the London section and then had a few years of accepting Oyster as well. Is this TfL's fault again? Did they make services they don't control, which fill in the gaps they don't provide for, too unattractive in terms of the proportion of fares those companies ended up with? They used to be run on LLSA terms were by they could accept TfL passes any get reimbursed. But TfL withdrew this and only offer LSP where they receive no money from TfL ... so it is of absolutely zero benefit to LSAs to accept any TfL tickets |
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Post by uakari on May 9, 2020 1:50:12 GMT
What is the history of why both of these routes stopped accepting TfL fares and Oyster in the London sections (the 84 up to Potters Bar, Cranborne Road), and reverted to fully commercial and Freedom Pass only? The 84 had always had the London section accepting TfL fares/Oyster, and the 614 accepted TfL fares in the London section and then had a few years of accepting Oyster as well. Is this TfL's fault again? Did they make services they don't control, which fill in the gaps they don't provide for, too unattractive in terms of the proportion of fares those companies ended up with? They used to be run on LLSA terms were by they could accept TfL passes any get reimbursed. But TfL withdrew this and only offer LSP where they receive no money from TfL ... so it is of absolutely zero benefit to LSAs to accept any TfL tickets Thanks - Why am I not surprised this was down to TfL? Would make sense if they were providing services to places just beyond the London boundary (or even somewhat less populated places within it such as Hadley Green) for the benefit of those within it, but they're not. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 9, 2020 8:29:37 GMT
Route 458 from Kingston to Staines. Route 216 linking both points is a TfL route, Kingston is of course in Greater London, and Staines served by several TfL bus routes.
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Post by twobellstogo on May 14, 2020 18:23:04 GMT
Route 458 from Kingston to Staines. Route 216 linking both points is a TfL route, Kingston is of course in Greater London, and Staines served by several TfL bus routes. I think the problem with the 458 would be if you were to TfL-ise the 458, then you’d probably also need to do the same with the closest to London part of the 715 (up to around Cobham) and possibly also the Dittons section of the 515 too. |
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Post by joefrombow on May 15, 2020 2:23:47 GMT
Extend the 498 to Chelmsford via the current 351 give First some competition and extend the 372 to Basildon hospital and Town Centre non stop via the A13 from Lakeside , also extend the 287 from War memorial at Rainham via Wennington , Purfleet Stn and Lakeside to Grays also extend the N86 to Shenfield and on weekends split section to Basildon (via old 551 now route 9 )/Chelmsford get some extra cash in the coffers from the Essex Punters !
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Post by britishguy54 on Oct 9, 2020 21:00:48 GMT
This would be a full fantasy takeover:
District line: Night service between Dagenham East and Richmond
H&C Line: Night service on the full route
Metropolitan line: Night service between Uxbridge and Aldgate
Overground: Extended from Barking to Bexleyheath via:
Castle Green
Barking Riverside
Thamesmead
Abbey Wood
Bexleyheath
DLR: Night service between Stratford International/Tower Gateway and Lewisham/Woolwich
Buses:
104: No longer will be diverted to Beckton. Instead will replace the 287 on Ripple Road and serve to Dagenham, New Road.
115: Re-routed to no longer serve Central Park. Instead will serve Barking Town Centre.
145: 24 hour Daily Service introduced.
173/673/687: New Bus Stop at Dagenham ASDA between Cook Road and Merrielands Retail Park.
248: 24 hour Daily Service introduced.
287: No longer serves the A13. Instead serves Goresbrook Road and Maplestead Road. New link road between Goresbrook Road and Ripple Road. 24 hour Weekend Night Service introduced.
348: New route between Hornchurch and Dagenham serving:
Hornchurch Town Centre
Elm Park
South Hornchurch, Wood Lane Dagenham East, Ballards Road Dagenham, New Road
Dagenham ASDA
365: Re-routed via both ways in Orchard Village. Extended to Beam Park.
369: New route between Little Heath and Beam Park serving:
Little Heath/King George Hospital Goodmayes
Lodge Avenue
Goresbrook Road
Dagenham, New Road
Beam Park Station
373: New Route between Fullwell Cross and Chadwell Heath serving:
Fullwell Cross
Barkingside Station
Ley Street
Seven Kings Station
High Road
Chadwell Heath, Wangey Road
374: New route between Harold Wood and Rainham, Ferry Lane serving:
Harold Wood Station
Havering College
Emerson Park Station
Hornchurch Station
South Hornchurch
Rainham, Tesco
Rainham, Ferry Lane
447: New Route between Ilford and Beckton serving:
Ilford, Hainault Street
Woodgrange Park Station
Upton Park Station
Lonsdale Avenue
Beckton Bus Station
Replaces 104 at Beckton.
475: New route between North Greenwich and Barking serving:
North Greenwich
Blackwall Tunnel
Canning Town
Royal Victoria
Custom House
Newham Way
East Ham, Newham Town Hall
Barking.
Route will replace 115 between Central Park and Newham Town Hall.
N8: Extended to Chigwell Row via 150.
N104: New night route between Stratford and Lakeside Shopping Centre. Serves the 104, 287 and 372.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 10, 2020 4:27:33 GMT
In a dream/fantasy world, a Tfl bus to Cheshunt would be useful for various reasons e.g. 310, especially if from Enfield as well Waltham X. A regular frequency 242 from Potters Bar to Cheshunt would be another one or a good alternative. The 84 would be handy too, as would making the 614 have Tfl fares/Oyster validity. (I suppose if history had turned out differently none of these are THAT fantastical though obviously unrealistic now). Do any of these accept tapped payments now? Finding cash is a major disincentive to use other buses when you are used to the TfL System. Various non-TFL routes in the Kingston area could also be transferred, and some routes around Heathrow/Staines. And also some routes around Watford - perhaps the 306 to Borehamwood, 8 to Mount Vernon, and maybe a service to Rickmansworth. Delete. My laptop took me to the top of the thread, and my point duplicated a point I made earlier this year (about route 458). |
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