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Post by vjaska on May 27, 2020 11:44:04 GMT
Hey all wishing you well during this pandemic and fingers crossed we'll be back to routine soon 👌🙏 I'd like to report that Park Lane in Central London now has a speed limit of 20mph with a segregated cycle path making it safer for Londoners to walk and cycle. New cycle lanes are in the process of being constructed from: Lewisham - Downham (A21) which will replace the bus lane along Rushey Green with a new speed limit of 20mph. Kingston - Croydon (currently in the process of construction). Kings Cross along Euston Road with a new speed limit of 20mph. Along with many boroughs already 20mph wide such as Lambeth, Westminster, Southwark & Lewisham (majority). I'll report that from July it's planned that North Chingford & Highams Park will have new speed limits of 20mph working towards making LBWF a 20mph wide borough. As lockdown is being eased we cannot continue to travel around our great city as we did pre-lockdown, so the new cycle lanes being built will not only encourage a healthier commute but will also create a Greener, healthier and economic London! Glad to know that major cities across the UK such as Leeds, Manchester and Birmingham with Reading along is going 20mph! Last but not least all new built cars in the EU and Britain will have a compulsory speed limiter from 2022 onwards which will prevent drivers exceeding the speed limit. Some buses in London already are in the process of having this feature installed and other major cities are to follow. Wishing you a great night and hope that you will all convert your journeys to walking & cycling where as possible. With public transport capacity greatly reduced by social distancing requirements for the foreseeable future it's good to see this being done.......... the alternative would be everyone gets in their car and gridlock. Which will happen anyway because people have also been told to use their car as well so once other shops open, congestion & pollution will soar. Narrowing a road plus advising people to drive alongside walking & cycling isn't a great mix and meanwhile, the poor bus passenger is left at the back of queue with bus lanes removed so when the congestion returns, they'll be sitting in it rather than passing through it. |
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Post by greenboy on May 27, 2020 12:03:31 GMT
With public transport capacity greatly reduced by social distancing requirements for the foreseeable future it's good to see this being done.......... the alternative would be everyone gets in their car and gridlock. Which will happen anyway because people have also been told to use their car as well so once other shops open, congestion & pollution will soar. Narrowing a road plus advising people to drive alongside walking & cycling isn't a great mix and meanwhile, the poor bus passenger is left at the back of queue with bus lanes removed so when the congestion returns, they'll be sitting in it rather than passing through it. I'm not aware of people being told to use their car, the increased congestion charge is intended to do exactly the opposite. Public transport, not just buses, is going to have only about 25% of the normal capacity available and if the mayor sat back and did nothing he would be lambasted for that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 12:34:04 GMT
Which will happen anyway because people have also been told to use their car as well so once other shops open, congestion & pollution will soar. Narrowing a road plus advising people to drive alongside walking & cycling isn't a great mix and meanwhile, the poor bus passenger is left at the back of queue with bus lanes removed so when the congestion returns, they'll be sitting in it rather than passing through it. I'm not aware of people being told to use their car, the increased congestion charge is intended to do exactly the opposite. Public transport, not just buses, is going to have only about 25% of the normal capacity available and if the mayor sat back and did nothing he would be lambasted for that. From my observations today its going to be very hard to enforce the 25% limit on buses soon. |
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Post by greenboy on May 27, 2020 12:41:14 GMT
I'm not aware of people being told to use their car, the increased congestion charge is intended to do exactly the opposite. Public transport, not just buses, is going to have only about 25% of the normal capacity available and if the mayor sat back and did nothing he would be lambasted for that. From my observations today its going to be very hard to enforce the 25% limit on buses soon. I'm sure it will be both on buses and trains but it's up to people to behave responsibly. |
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Post by vjaska on May 27, 2020 13:08:02 GMT
Which will happen anyway because people have also been told to use their car as well so once other shops open, congestion & pollution will soar. Narrowing a road plus advising people to drive alongside walking & cycling isn't a great mix and meanwhile, the poor bus passenger is left at the back of queue with bus lanes removed so when the congestion returns, they'll be sitting in it rather than passing through it. I'm not aware of people being told to use their car, the increased congestion charge is intended to do exactly the opposite. Public transport, not just buses, is going to have only about 25% of the normal capacity available and if the mayor sat back and did nothing he would be lambasted for that. It was in the 15 min speech made by Boris where people were encouraged to walk, cycle, drive & avoid public transport. |
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Post by greenboy on May 27, 2020 13:33:57 GMT
I'm not aware of people being told to use their car, the increased congestion charge is intended to do exactly the opposite. Public transport, not just buses, is going to have only about 25% of the normal capacity available and if the mayor sat back and did nothing he would be lambasted for that. It was in the 15 min speech made by Boris where people were encouraged to walk, cycle, drive & avoid public transport. Boris was probably referring to the country in general.......... in some areas using a car will be better than using public transport. |
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Post by snowman on Jun 16, 2020 7:34:41 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Jun 16, 2020 8:27:33 GMT
Not before time, plenty of e-scooters about now even if they are illegal. |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 16, 2020 8:35:26 GMT
Not before time, plenty of e-scooters about now even if they are illegal. Should not be allowed on pavements given the speed they do. At what point to electric bikes and scooters become electric motorbikes? |
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Post by greenboy on Jun 16, 2020 9:44:06 GMT
Not before time, plenty of e-scooters about now even if they are illegal. Should not be allowed on pavements given the speed they do. At what point to electric bikes and scooters become electric motorbikes? There's a thin line between motor and electric bikes and scooters as well as mobility scooters, obviously these things can't be uninvented and a satisfactory way needs to be found of accommodating them safely. |
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Post by Pilot on Jun 16, 2020 9:45:47 GMT
Nearly hit like 2 of them in past 2 weeks as they come out of nowhere driving from sidewalks into the roads, past the red traffic lights, snaking around traffic without any lights or reflectors or helmet, most of the scooters are black and hard to see...if you thought bicycles were bad, this is like x5 as bad...I am not gonna lie I don't want them to be ILLEGAL but until there are proper laws for it, or bicycles it's kind of pointless, but knowing UK government they will make some stupid law where 'if you can you must be careful, but if u dont then its ok, but please if you may, try to be safe, but it's ok if you're not.
In EU, police will stop a freaking bicycle for lack of 1 reflector on the wheel.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 16, 2020 9:50:25 GMT
Should not be allowed on pavements given the speed they do. At what point to electric bikes and scooters become electric motorbikes? There's a thin line between motor and electric bikes and scooters as well as mobility scooters, obviously these things can't be uninvented and a satisfactory way needs to be found of accommodating them safely. The lines need to be clearly defined as the regulations governing them are so different. What is there to stop me creating an electric bike that looks like a motorbike? Also currently the law states if you are disqualified from driving you are banned from driving any motorised vehicle |
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Post by John tuthill on Jun 16, 2020 9:59:05 GMT
There's a thin line between motor and electric bikes and scooters as well as mobility scooters, obviously these things can't be uninvented and a satisfactory way needs to be found of accommodating them safely. The lines need to be clearly defined as the regulations governing them are so different. What is there to stop me creating an electric bike that looks like a motorbike? Also currently the law states if you are disqualified from driving you are banned from driving any motorised vehicle Sorry mate, Honda have beaten you to it  (Not my photo) Attachment Deleted |
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 16, 2020 10:01:21 GMT
The lines need to be clearly defined as the regulations governing them are so different. What is there to stop me creating an electric bike that looks like a motorbike? Also currently the law states if you are disqualified from driving you are banned from driving any motorised vehicle Sorry mate, Honda have beaten you to it (Not my photo) View AttachmentSo what's to stop me claiming that is an ordinary electric bike .... is there anything? Is see it is already legally defined as anything with a motor over 250 watts of power or a maximum speed of 25kph (15mph) is classified as a motor vehicle |
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Post by snowman on Jun 17, 2020 7:31:06 GMT
The lines need to be clearly defined as the regulations governing them are so different. What is there to stop me creating an electric bike that looks like a motorbike? Also currently the law states if you are disqualified from driving you are banned from driving any motorised vehicle Sorry mate, Honda have beaten you to it (Not my photo) View AttachmentNot just Honda, and Peugeot Seat (part of VW Group) has launched both electric scooter and electric kick scooter www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/352542/seat-launches-three-new-electric-scootersSeems to me, that world has jumped ahead with commuting, and both DfT and TfL are struggling to catch up. Not going to be easy to prefer a diesel (some pollution) bus over an electric (no pollution) vehicle. I know currently about half of UK electricity comes from fossil fuels, but the power stations no longer in City centres I understand the electric kick scooter is euro 449 (about £396), same price as few weeks travelcard |
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