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Post by rif153 on Jul 26, 2020 18:41:50 GMT
350? Would be nice if GAL won the 156 lol Not just the 156 as Go Ahead could easily run the 150,157,158 and 159 without any problem. I was thinking routes in the 40s could potentially all be Go Ahead routes but it seems to me that the 46 is too far away. Otherwise they could run the other routes excluding the 48 obviously. Go-Ahead used to have the 150's school journeys 2010-17. |
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Post by george on Jul 26, 2020 18:57:16 GMT
Not just the 156 as Go Ahead could easily run the 150,157,158 and 159 without any problem. I was thinking routes in the 40s could potentially all be Go Ahead routes but it seems to me that the 46 is too far away. Otherwise they could run the other routes excluding the 48 obviously. Go-Ahead used to have the 150's school journeys 2010-17. Indeed not knowing the 150 well I was unsure if Go Ahead could operate the route until I remembered they had the school journeys. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 26, 2020 19:15:55 GMT
The 493 has had the most operators in the shortest amount of time these include mergers Mitcham Belle Centra Metroline NCP Challenger Transdev London United Go Ahead Route only began in 2002. The W16 I remember was with First Capital for 4 weeks before Go Ahead purchased Northumberland Park in 2013. Probably holds the record for the quickest operator change in the same year. The 388 probably holds the record for the most terminus changes |
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Post by george on Jul 26, 2020 19:25:56 GMT
The 493 has had the most operators in the shortest amount of time these include mergers Mitcham Belle Centra Metroline NCP Challenger Transdev London United Go Ahead Route only began in 2002. The W16 I remember was with First Capital for 4 weeks before Go Ahead purchased Northumberland Park in 2013. Probably holds the record for the quickest operator change in the same year. The 388 probably holds the record for the most terminus changes I think the 378 beats it. Was with Metroline from 9th August to the 19th. |
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Post by redexpress on Jul 26, 2020 20:39:48 GMT
The 81 became the first Transport for London bus route to be operated by a private contractor, when London Buslines operated the 05.00 Hounslow-Slough journey on 13th July 1985 (at the time Transport for London was London Regional Transport). The 313 was the first Transport for London service to be numbered in the 300-499 series on 24th April 1982, when it was taken over from London Country and cut back from St Albans to Potters Bar. The 84 was transferred to London Country in exchange, operated under contract to Hertfordshire County Council. London Buses won the route back in June 1986 and took it on commercially in 1989. According to London Buses allocation books it was actually on 5 Sept 1992 that the 84 was taken on commercially by London Northern. The Mon-Sat 242 also went commercial at the same time. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 26, 2020 21:09:41 GMT
The P4 is the only P-series route to meet the other 3 routes in the series along its route. The 113 is the northernmost day service from Central London if I’m right. The 358 is the longest route to only serve one borough, as well as the longest single deck route. The W7 is the shortest route with some form of a night service, albeit suspended for now. Does the 108 have the longest diversion when it goes via Tower Bridge on Saturday late nights as well? Crystal Palace Parade however is borough of Lambeth so the 358 does serve a tiny piece of it for 1 stop. The 246 is also about 15 miles just like the 358 and does not exit the borough of Bromley. The alighting point for the 358 is in Southwark if counting the pavement. Only the row of the shops before the alighting point are in Lambeth with the road itself in Bromley. |
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Post by LJ17THF on Jul 26, 2020 21:50:30 GMT
Crystal Palace Parade however is borough of Lambeth so the 358 does serve a tiny piece of it for 1 stop. The 246 is also about 15 miles just like the 358 and does not exit the borough of Bromley. The alighting point for the 358 is in Southwark if counting the pavement. Only the row of the shops before the alighting point are in Lambeth with the road itself in Bromley. Well, the buses don't drive on the pavement unless the driver stops on the curb   |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 21:59:38 GMT
Crystal Palace has London’s highest altitude bus station.
The 246 crosses the highest point within the London boundary, at Westerham Heights,
N89 (and Fri/Sat night 486 when running) are highest altitude night routes at Shooters Hill
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Post by TB123 on Jul 26, 2020 22:05:28 GMT
The P4 is the only P-series route to meet the other 3 routes in the series along its route. The 113 is the northernmost day service from Central London if I’m right. The 358 is the longest route to only serve one borough, as well as the longest single deck route. The W7 is the shortest route with some form of a night service, albeit suspended for now. Does the 108 have the longest diversion when it goes via Tower Bridge on Saturday late nights as well? Crystal Palace Parade however is borough of Lambeth so the 358 does serve a tiny piece of it for 1 stop. The 246 is also about 15 miles just like the 358 and does not exit the borough of Bromley. 246 does exit the Borough of Bromley - entering Kent (Sevenoaks Borough) at Westerham. |
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Post by vjaska on Jul 26, 2020 22:54:27 GMT
The alighting point for the 358 is in Southwark if counting the pavement. Only the row of the shops before the alighting point are in Lambeth with the road itself in Bromley. Well, the buses don't drive on the pavement unless the driver stops on the curb Indeed but some people prefer to refer to that so thought I'd mention it to suit everyone  |
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Post by ronnie on Jul 26, 2020 23:20:25 GMT
The alighting point for the 358 is in Southwark if counting the pavement. Only the row of the shops before the alighting point are in Lambeth with the road itself in Bromley. Well, the buses don't drive on the pavement unless the driver stops on the curb They need to “curb” their enthusiasm! |
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Post by rif153 on Jul 27, 2020 10:32:55 GMT
From Tooting 333 to Streatham Hill 319 to Sloane Square 19 to Finsbury Park 29 to Manor House 279 to Waltham Cross or From New Addington 64 to Croydon 250 to Brixton 59 to Euston 253 to Manor House 279 to Enfield 313 to Chingford From 19th September You can also now have 428 Bluewater to Erith 229 Erith to Sidcup 160 Sidcup to Catford 202 Catford to Crystal Palace 157 Crystal Palace to West Croydon 289 West Croydon to Purley 405 Purley to Redhill Or 428 Bluewater to Erith 229 Erith to Sidcup 160 Sidcup to Catford 202 Catford to Crystal Palace 417 Crystal Palace to Streatham Hill 133 Streatham Hill to London Bridge 149 London Bridge to Seven Sisters 279 Seven Sisters to Waltham Cross On Arriva Only Buses Another one I thought of which from 29th August will include Arriva buses only is: 405 to Redhill 250 to Streatham Hill 137/319 to Sloane Square 19 to Finsbury Park Then either 259 to Tottenham 279 to Waltham Cross or 29 to Wood Green 329 to Enfield 313 to Chingford |
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Post by greg on Jul 27, 2020 11:23:36 GMT
The 383 is currently the only Uno route in London. The 692/699 join soon and will be the only Uno school routes and also the first electric school route (bar the 616 rare workings) The 631 is the only school route to run with 7.8m one door buses. Not quite, the 673 will be the first electric school route with the change happening in October. Oh yes, completely forgot about the 673 which will be the first school route and alongisde the 173 to get electric Stagecoach BYDs! |
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Post by greg on Jul 27, 2020 11:30:22 GMT
350? Would be nice if GAL won the 156 lol Not just the 156 as Go Ahead could easily run the 150,157,158 and 159 without any problem. I was thinking routes in the 40s could potentially all be Go Ahead routes but it seems to me that the 46 is too far away. Otherwise they could run the other routes excluding the 48 obviously. Go Ahead could actually have a shot for the 46, sometimes if there are good transport links from the garage to route terminus it won’t matter on deadruns and mileage if the distance is not too far. Route 15 can be an example, not even close to RR but the DLR and District Line from numerous places on the route, can get you to RR very quickly. I reckon Waterloo Garage RA could have a shot at the 46, with deadruns to Lancaster Gate and Bart’s Hospital via the Waterloo & City Line to Bank and using the Central Line. You could also use the Bakerloo and Northern and the Jubilee to access some of the 46’s routing like at Swiss Cottage, Hampstead or Warwick Avenue instead of a driver changeover or any fault or cause. |
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Post by george on Jul 27, 2020 11:36:55 GMT
Not just the 156 as Go Ahead could easily run the 150,157,158 and 159 without any problem. I was thinking routes in the 40s could potentially all be Go Ahead routes but it seems to me that the 46 is too far away. Otherwise they could run the other routes excluding the 48 obviously. Go Ahead could actually have a shot for the 46, sometimes if there are good transport links from the garage to route terminus it won’t matter on deadruns and mileage if the distance is not too far. Route 15 can be an example, not even close to RR but the DLR and District Line from numerous places on the route, can get you to RR very quickly. I reckon Waterloo Garage RA could have a shot at the 46, with deadruns to Lancaster Gate and Bart’s Hospital via the Waterloo & City Line to Bank and using the Central Line. You could also use the Bakerloo and Northern and the Jubilee to access some of the 46’s routing like at Swiss Cottage, Hampstead or Warwick Avenue instead of a driver changeover or any fault or cause. RA is full I believe. |
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