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Post by wirewiper on Sept 21, 2020 8:15:29 GMT
I think N5 and N20 were originally branded 'Northern Line' even on the blinds. (And if I recall correctly, N20 was actually originally N1). I remember using the N5 many times in its early days with woefully irregular service; there was then suddenly a point around 2000ish when it became hugely popular and frequent. Yes you are right about the N20 originally being the N1; it was renumbered to free up the number for the current N1. Apparently N20 was chosen because the route passed through that postcode area!
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 21, 2020 16:47:07 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 21, 2020 20:55:33 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations? You have the 69 with three. Canning Town, Stratford and Walthamstow
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 21, 2020 21:03:52 GMT
N87 Kingston, Fairfield Kingston, Cromwell Road Wimbledon Vauxhall
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Post by greg on Sept 21, 2020 23:02:34 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations? You have the 69 with three. Canning Town, Stratford and Walthamstow Umm 221 serves Turnpike Lane, Mill Hill Broadway, North Finchley and Edgware bus stations.
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Post by enviroPB on Sept 22, 2020 5:19:50 GMT
I think the N5 and N20 were made around the Northern Line and the N550/N551 with the DLR although I might be wrong The N550 & N551 were created in 2008 from the N50 which ran Trafalgar Square to Gallions Reach Retail Park via Isle of Dogs - presumably in 2008, they decided operationally it wasn't ideal and split it into two routes with the N550 serving Isle of Dogs and terminating at Canning Town whilst the N551 stays on the A13 and then heads towards Gallions Reach. From what I can tell, the only major difference between the N50 & N550/N551 was that the N50 ran via Victoria Embankment rather than Strand & Fleet Street up to Blackfriars From publicity documents back then, the N50 was broken into two routes to add capacity in the Docklands area and to quicken journey times to Beckton from central London. The original N50 ran upwards of 75 minutes, which is pretty unattractive for an end journey to Beckton or Gallions Reach for example when there's options like the N15 to Canning Town and a change to the 474 which would undoubtedly be quicker than the N50. To add to what Redexpress has said, the N550 was essentially a shortened version of the N50 when it was routed via Victoria Embankment. The N551 retained the routing eastbound of Canning Town, used to mirror the N50 from Aldgate to Mansion House at the start and the filler gaps of the Highway and East India Dock Road to facilitate quicker journey times. Of course, endless utility works and new road layouts have changed things in central London for the N550 and N551; the former for the worse cause buses did use to pick up passengers along the Embankment and at Blackfriars. The N551 fares a bit better being rerotued via Wormwood Street, which essentially gives a link from Liverpool Street to Canning Town and sees a noticeable amount of passengers use the bus than when the N551 was routed via Leadenhall Street and Cornhill.
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 22, 2020 18:09:48 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations? N9: Hammersmith Bus Station, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station, Heathrow Terminal 5 285: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hatton Cross Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station 111: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station
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Post by greg on Sept 22, 2020 20:31:31 GMT
What route is the busiest in London? It was the 25 before its cut to City Thameslink, but apparently now 2nd, so Im guessing the 18 or 29 is now the busiest?
Also suprised the 25 only fell back second it shows the cut was horrible but the route still gets generally good loads and does not need any other changes and TFL were lucky on that case
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Post by ronnie on Sept 22, 2020 21:13:38 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations? N9: Hammersmith Bus Station, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station, Heathrow Terminal 5 285: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hatton Cross Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station 111: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station X26 - same as the 285 plus west Croydon bus station
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Post by vjaska on Sept 22, 2020 21:31:19 GMT
What route is the busiest in London? It was the 25 before its cut to City Thameslink, but apparently now 2nd, so Im guessing the 18 or 29 is now the busiest? Also suprised the 25 only fell back second it shows the cut was horrible but the route still gets generally good loads and does not need any other changes and TFL were lucky on that case It's the 18, 25 & 29 with the 140 hot on the heels of the 29.
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Post by rif153 on Sept 22, 2020 22:27:39 GMT
What bus service serves the most bus stations? N9: Hammersmith Bus Station, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station, Heathrow Terminal 5 285: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hatton Cross Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station 111: Kingston Cromwell Road, Hounslow Bus Station, Heathrow Central Bus Station 102: Brent Cross, Golders Green, Edmonton Green
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Post by rift on Sept 23, 2020 16:51:02 GMT
What route is the busiest in London? It was the 25 before its cut to City Thameslink, but apparently now 2nd, so Im guessing the 18 or 29 is now the busiest? Also suprised the 25 only fell back second it shows the cut was horrible but the route still gets generally good loads and does not need any other changes and TFL were lucky on that case The busiest is the 18, while the most crowded per mile is the W7 if I’m right
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 23, 2020 17:24:34 GMT
The N550 & N551 were created in 2008 from the N50 which ran Trafalgar Square to Gallions Reach Retail Park via Isle of Dogs - presumably in 2008, they decided operationally it wasn't ideal and split it into two routes with the N550 serving Isle of Dogs and terminating at Canning Town whilst the N551 stays on the A13 and then heads towards Gallions Reach. From what I can tell, the only major difference between the N50 & N550/N551 was that the N50 ran via Victoria Embankment rather than Strand & Fleet Street up to Blackfriars From publicity documents back then, the N50 was broken into two routes to add capacity in the Docklands area and to quicken journey times to Beckton from central London. The original N50 ran upwards of 75 minutes, which is pretty unattractive for an end journey to Beckton or Gallions Reach for example when there's options like the N15 to Canning Town and a change to the 474 which would undoubtedly be quicker than the N50. To add to what Redexpress has said, the N550 was essentially a shortened version of the N50 when it was routed via Victoria Embankment. The N551 retained the routing eastbound of Canning Town, used to mirror the N50 from Aldgate to Mansion House at the start and the filler gaps of the Highway and East India Dock Road to facilitate quicker journey times. Of course, endless utility works and new road layouts have changed things in central London for the N550 and N551; the former for the worse cause buses did use to pick up passengers along the Embankment and at Blackfriars. The N551 fares a bit better being rerotued via Wormwood Street, which essentially gives a link from Liverpool Street to Canning Town and sees a noticeable amount of passengers use the bus than when the N551 was routed via Leadenhall Street and Cornhill. The original N50 went on from Beckton Station to Barking Station via the A13 and Movers Lane- think it may have even gone on to Ilford
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 17:29:54 GMT
From publicity documents back then, the N50 was broken into two routes to add capacity in the Docklands area and to quicken journey times to Beckton from central London. The original N50 ran upwards of 75 minutes, which is pretty unattractive for an end journey to Beckton or Gallions Reach for example when there's options like the N15 to Canning Town and a change to the 474 which would undoubtedly be quicker than the N50. To add to what Redexpress has said, the N550 was essentially a shortened version of the N50 when it was routed via Victoria Embankment. The N551 retained the routing eastbound of Canning Town, used to mirror the N50 from Aldgate to Mansion House at the start and the filler gaps of the Highway and East India Dock Road to facilitate quicker journey times. Of course, endless utility works and new road layouts have changed things in central London for the N550 and N551; the former for the worse cause buses did use to pick up passengers along the Embankment and at Blackfriars. The N551 fares a bit better being rerotued via Wormwood Street, which essentially gives a link from Liverpool Street to Canning Town and sees a noticeable amount of passengers use the bus than when the N551 was routed via Leadenhall Street and Cornhill. The original N50 went on from Beckton Station to Barking Station via the A13 and Movers Lane- think it may have even gone on to Ilford Yep and think it started off single decker as well?
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Post by galwhv69 on Sept 23, 2020 17:46:50 GMT
The original N50 went on from Beckton Station to Barking Station via the A13 and Movers Lane- think it may have even gone on to Ilford Yep and think it started off single decker as well? What vehicles had a fleet code of "S"?
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