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Post by wirewiper on Jan 18, 2021 17:48:34 GMT
Back in 1999, The Museum of Transport Greater Manchester hosted an "accessible transport" event, its aim being to allow visitors with limited mobility to enjoy the exhibits by providing assistance and displays. As part of the event Stagecoach in Manchester brought along then-new Dennis Trident 612, the very first of a new generation of so-called "low floor" buses with a step-free entrance and easier access, to show the progress being made with contemporary accessible vehicles. It is believed to be Stagecoach's first low-floor double decker outside London, and was so new it had yet to enter service.
In 2021 the same bus, now carrying fleetnumber 17612, has returned to the museum - as an exhibit. Having spent its last years as driver trainer it has now been donated to the Museum by Stagecoach. In due course it will be restored to original condition, featuring the "Starsky & Hutch" three-colour stripes.
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Post by busoccultation on Jan 18, 2021 18:11:41 GMT
Indeed it is and it was the first non-London Stagecoach Trident ever to enter service.
Anyway here is this beauty now and when it was new in the original stripes livery š„°:
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 24, 2021 6:40:17 GMT
I loved the roar of the first Euro2 Trident engines, it only seems like yesterday when I was having my first ride on one of them on the 277. Time flies. I wish we could go back to the London liveries of 20 years ago  |
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Post by richard on Feb 24, 2021 15:49:47 GMT
I loved the roar of the first Euro2 Trident engines, it only seems like yesterday when I was having my first ride on one of them on the 277. Time flies. I wish we could go back to the London liveries of 20 years ago I remember the 277 and 30 tridents when they were new can't believe they are all gone from London  |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 26, 2021 5:25:06 GMT
I loved the roar of the first Euro2 Trident engines, it only seems like yesterday when I was having my first ride on one of them on the 277. Time flies. I wish we could go back to the London liveries of 20 years ago I remember the 277 and 30 tridents when they were new can't believe they are all gone from London I even remember the Titans before them on the 30 and 277, and going to the Sunday Market for cheap Chinese VCDs (bootleg DVD films recorded in the cinema on the States) next to WA (Waterden Road bus garage in Stratford)  all that now is under Westfield and the Olympic Park I always think the Voith Tridents sounded better than the ZF ones (T***LLC) that struggled on the 123 with First Capital as they started to replace the bright yellow Metrobus II's and Dennis Arrows  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 8:46:39 GMT
I remember the 277 and 30 tridents when they were new can't believe they are all gone from LondonĀ I even remember the Titans before them on the 30 and 277, and going to the Sunday Market for cheap Chinese VCDs (bootleg DVD films recorded in the cinema on the States) next to WA (Waterden Road bus garage in Stratford) all that now is under Westfield and the Olympic Park I always think the Voith Tridents sounded better than the ZF ones (T***LLC) that struggled on the 123 with First Capital as they started to replace the bright yellow Metrobus II's and Dennis Arrows Wow so many memories! I remember a stage around 1999 or 2000 when the 241 ended up seeing fairly regular Titan workings when the route moved to BW. Can't remember what route the Ts were allocated to at the time? Maybe the D7? Those DVD sellers were everywhere back in the day used to be funny when they spotted the police and made a quick exit. |
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Post by delt1c on Mar 8, 2021 10:13:56 GMT
I remember Loddekka FS's being introduced by Eastern Scottish, if Tridents make you feel old , I feel ancient( but happy) reading this
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Post by snowman on Mar 9, 2021 7:16:08 GMT
I remember seeing couple of Metrobuses on A45 on their delivery run from the factory in mid 1980s
I also remember my dad taking us to see the last day of the Bournemouth trolleybus (Saturday 19 April 1969), I was only 4 years old at the time
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Post by snowman on Apr 30, 2022 19:15:43 GMT
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Post by WH241 on Apr 30, 2022 19:26:13 GMT
It was buses like the Leyland National that formed the early years of my interest in transport. I first rode them on the 278 East Beckton - Limehouse in the very early 90s and also odd workings on 241 (I think off the D5). They had such character and a certain roughness around the edge about them. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2022 19:29:49 GMT
It was buses like the Leyland National that formed the early years of my interest in buses. I first rode them on the 278 East Beckton - Limehouse in the very early 90s and also odd workings on 241 (I think off the D5). They had such character and a certain roughness around the edge about them. Sadly I never had any in my area when I was growing up but I've managed to ride a couple of preserved examples over the last few years and they're right up my street being a huge Leyland fan growing up with Olympians & Titans |
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Post by mkay315 on Apr 30, 2022 19:51:39 GMT
I know I've mentioned this on here previously but I remembered when I managed to get on this specific bus. K888TKS. That bus is such a national treasure in being the last ever Leyland Olympian bus that was ever built and the first ever Northern Counties Palatine 2 bus ever built back in 1993. Flipping heck I feel old.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Apr 30, 2022 20:09:07 GMT
I remember Metrobuses working the 134 between 1999 & 2003, they were certainly absolute beastly buses! The 102 I can remember until 2002 using its Metrobuses which were also really good & I must admit during the early 00s the 43 did seem a bit like an alien with its new low floor TPs (even though they were really good!) although there was the W7 which did convert to low floor in 2000. I remember Vs at HT, frankly I f***ing hated them! They were so uncomfortable and was glad to see the back of them circa 2003-04!
However, a lot of the low floor stuff from early on was quite compromised in many ways to make them accessible with the technology and engineering that existed at the time and because of this, sadly, most Tridents of from that era (circa 1999) are in the scrap heap, partly because of PSVAR but also because their lifespan and robustness wasn't as good as the older high-floor Olympians Leylands etc they replaced although there are some anomolies like the AVLs that were new to the 45 of which are still common throughout the country.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 30, 2022 21:47:45 GMT
I remember Metrobuses working the 134 between 1999 & 2003, they were certainly absolute beastly buses! The 102 I can remember until 2002 using its Metrobuses which were also really good & I must admit during the early 00s the 43 did seem a bit like an alien with its new low floor TPs (even though they were really good!) although there was the W7 which did convert to low floor in 2000. I remember Vs at HT, frankly I f***ing hated them! They were so uncomfortable and was glad to see the back of them circa 2003-04! However, a lot of the low floor stuff from early on was quite compromised in many ways to make them accessible with the technology and engineering that existed at the time and because of this, sadly, most Tridents of from that era (circa 1999) are in the scrap heap, partly because of PSVAR but also because their lifespan and robustness wasn't as good as the older high-floor Olympians Leylands etc they replaced although there are some anomolies like the AVLs that were new to the 45 of which are still common throughout the country. Metrobuses along with Olympians & Titans were my earliest memories - Metrobus wise, it was riding the 37, 118 & 196 as well as two trips on the 337 to Richmond as a kid (boy that was a fun route in the 90's). Loved the screaming of the Voith box and that clunk into 3rd. The other interesting vehicles were the VC's at SW for the 133 & 196, really solid workhorses and the NV's at SW & Q which were nippy buses |
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Post by ServerKing on May 2, 2022 8:14:06 GMT
I remember Metrobuses working the 134 between 1999 & 2003, they were certainly absolute beastly buses! The 102 I can remember until 2002 using its Metrobuses which were also really good & I must admit during the early 00s the 43 did seem a bit like an alien with its new low floor TPs (even though they were really good!) although there was the W7 which did convert to low floor in 2000. I remember Vs at HT, frankly I f***ing hated them! They were so uncomfortable and was glad to see the back of them circa 2003-04! However, a lot of the low floor stuff from early on was quite compromised in many ways to make them accessible with the technology and engineering that existed at the time and because of this, sadly, most Tridents of from that era (circa 1999) are in the scrap heap, partly because of PSVAR but also because their lifespan and robustness wasn't as good as the older high-floor Olympians Leylands etc they replaced although there are some anomolies like the AVLs that were new to the 45 of which are still common throughout the country. Metrobuses along with Olympians & Titans were my earliest memories - Metrobus wise, it was riding the 37, 118 & 196 as well as two trips on the 337 to Richmond as a kid (boy that was a fun route in the 90's). Loved the screaming of the Voith box and that clunk into 3rd. The other interesting vehicles were the VC's at SW for the 133 & 196, really solid workhorses and the NV's at SW & Q which were nippy buses I took a ride on an L on the 468, it was painful climbing Knight's Hill, I think it was the Hydrocyclic box ones (that made a sneezing sound every gearchange), the panel at the back of the bus near the rear window was loose, so there was plenty of diesel fumes as the Gardner engine did it's best on tough terrain  a mate and I with little to do took a ride on the then new Tramlink in Croydon. Their Voith sisters on the 2 were an interesting alternative to a thrash along Park Lane on a TA on the 16. Time flies, it only seems like yesterday capitalomnibus would say the Ex Norwood VLAs and their deafening fans would be on the 123 forever (I feel the same way about the Antiques Roadshow on the 318 right now ) Riding the first DLAs on the 242 when brand new was great, the early ones had no rear window which was annoying, so it could be a bit gloomy at the back of the bus... seeing them through to their end of their working lives on the W3 (though LV mistreated them ) the best DLA thrash was on the 370 before the VLAs then DWs took over  |
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all that now is under Westfield and the Olympic Park 
a mate and I with little to do took a ride on the then new Tramlink in Croydon. Their Voith sisters on the 2 were an interesting alternative to a thrash along Park Lane on a TA on the 16.