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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 25, 2021 8:52:58 GMT
It would be nice to see more policies on getting people back to work I think the days of everyone working from an office are over now. The pandemic has proven it is possible to have a workforce that splits its time between office and work from home- in fact some business may even favour the cost benefit of having people working from home I don't think it's over yet but I think it needs a revamp. I think we could see part office part home for lots of workers. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 2, 2021 12:21:52 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 2, 2021 12:45:06 GMT
What she obviously does not comprehend is that will have to be a DfT led initiative on routes mirroring NR. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 2, 2021 13:04:13 GMT
What she obviously does not comprehend is that will have to be a DfT led initiative on routes mirroring NR. To be honest these days I feel the Greens are increasingly just out of touch with reality. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 3, 2021 20:33:57 GMT
What she obviously does not comprehend is that will have to be a DfT led initiative on routes mirroring NR. To be honest these days I feel the Greens are increasingly just out of touch with reality. I would say they are better now, compared to 20 years ago, many of the stuff they wanted to do was unrealistic and laughable. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 3, 2021 20:39:29 GMT
Shaun Bailey: Tory mayoral candidate says universal income would be used for drugsLondon mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey has been criticised for claiming people "would buy lots of drugs" if they were given a universal basic income (UBI).www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56252024
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Mar 3, 2021 20:39:38 GMT
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Post by MKAY315 on Mar 3, 2021 22:20:16 GMT
Shaun Bailey: Tory mayoral candidate says universal income would be used for drugsLondon mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey has been criticised for claiming people "would buy lots of drugs" if they were given a universal basic income (UBI).www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56252024 Like to say people in his own camp isn't snorting crack in those buildings but anyways let him continue to hang himself with that rope of foolishness. |
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Post by dashing0ne on Mar 4, 2021 9:31:17 GMT
1. Sort out the whole transport network, full electrics by 2025. Who is the only one who can do it: Shaun Bailey 2. Re-build Hammersmith Bridge. Who is the only one who can do it: Shaun Bailey 3. Who already knows the outcome of UBI: Shaun Bailey 4. Who can nearly cut all crime: Shaun Bailey 5. Who can get rid of new HIV infections (or somehting like that) in 7 years: Shaun Bailey
Who knows everything, can do everything and is best mayor: Shaun Bailey
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(NOTE: Joke, nobody should take it seriously but that is what Bailey says, I am sure he will achieve all of this!  ) |
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Post by busman on Mar 4, 2021 9:32:22 GMT
Shaun Bailey: Tory mayoral candidate says universal income would be used for drugsLondon mayoral candidate Shaun Bailey has been criticised for claiming people "would buy lots of drugs" if they were given a universal basic income (UBI).www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56252024 Like to say people in his own camp isn't snorting crack in those buildings but anyways let him continue to hang himself with that rope of foolishness. I haven’t seen the actual footage of the exchange, but look at what the article quotes from Shaun Bailey compared to what others accuse him of saying: : "I know some people who would absolutely fly if you gave them a lump sum every week. I know some people that would buy lots of drugs. He added: "So where is the care for the person? How do you get past just universally giving people money?" Taking this excerpt alone, I think Bailey has a fair point. You can’t just throw money at people and think that is enough. Financial education is lacking in schools and among adults, and the human condition is indeed complex. Looking at the root causes as to why people become addicted to drugs and alcohol and helping them to overcome those demons is also important. I’m not Bailey’s biggest fan, but I think the debate should be had on whether UBI will succeed within UK society/culture and what it will achieve. Also if the pilot goes ahead, perhaps they should conduct in depth interviews with participants to understand what makes some people fly vs. not spending wisely. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 11:02:24 GMT
Like to say people in his own camp isn't snorting crack in those buildings but anyways let him continue to hang himself with that rope of foolishness. I haven’t seen the actual footage of the exchange, but look at what the article quotes from Shaun Bailey compared to what others accuse him of saying: : "I know some people who would absolutely fly if you gave them a lump sum every week. I know some people that would buy lots of drugs. He added: "So where is the care for the person? How do you get past just universally giving people money?" Taking this excerpt alone, I think Bailey has a fair point. You can’t just throw money at people and think that is enough. Financial education is lacking in schools and among adults, and the human condition is indeed complex. Looking at the root causes as to why people become addicted to drugs and alcohol and helping them to overcome those demons is also important. I’m not Bailey’s biggest fan, but I think the debate should be had on whether UBI will succeed within UK society/culture and what it will achieve. Also if the pilot goes ahead, perhaps they should conduct in depth interviews with participants to understand what makes some people fly vs. not spending wisely. I think he has a point as well. If some people are vulnerable enough to not work through drug use or alcohol abuse then throwing money at them doesn’t help. They should be monitoring people with a history of substance abuse to ensure they are maintaining their sobriety to have access to the proposed UBI. If they are going to meetings or having regular counselling they should be included if not they are just adding fuel to the fire. |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 4, 2021 11:10:47 GMT
I haven’t seen the actual footage of the exchange, but look at what the article quotes from Shaun Bailey compared to what others accuse him of saying: : "I know some people who would absolutely fly if you gave them a lump sum every week. I know some people that would buy lots of drugs. He added: "So where is the care for the person? How do you get past just universally giving people money?" Taking this excerpt alone, I think Bailey has a fair point. You can’t just throw money at people and think that is enough. Financial education is lacking in schools and among adults, and the human condition is indeed complex. Looking at the root causes as to why people become addicted to drugs and alcohol and helping them to overcome those demons is also important. I’m not Bailey’s biggest fan, but I think the debate should be had on whether UBI will succeed within UK society/culture and what it will achieve. Also if the pilot goes ahead, perhaps they should conduct in depth interviews with participants to understand what makes some people fly vs. not spending wisely. I think he has a point as well. If some people are vulnerable enough to not work through drug use or alcohol abuse then throwing money at them doesn’t help. They should be monitoring people with a history of substance abuse to ensure they are maintaining their sobriety to have access to the proposed UBI. If they are going to meetings or having regular counselling they should be included if not they are just adding fuel to the fire. There is a huge public debate to be had on UBI (Universal Basic Income). There is also a huge (but separate) debate to be had on drug use which encompasses possible decriminalisation of possession and use, regulation of supply, and availability and efficacy of support services. To conflate the two issues as Shaun Bailey has done here is unhelpful and divisive. |
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 4, 2021 11:13:34 GMT
I think he has a point as well. If some people are vulnerable enough to not work through drug use or alcohol abuse then throwing money at them doesn’t help. They should be monitoring people with a history of substance abuse to ensure they are maintaining their sobriety to have access to the proposed UBI. If they are going to meetings or having regular counselling they should be included if not they are just adding fuel to the fire. There is a huge public debate to be had on UBI (Universal Basic Income). There is also a huge (but separate) debate to be had on drug use which encompasses possible decriminalisation of possession and use, regulation of supply, and availability and efficacy of support services. To conflate the two issues as Shaun Bailey has done here is unhelpful and divisive. Some issues are intrinsically linked, so looking at A in isolation , which will have a knock on effect to B which is not being looked into, will just lead to chaos, and wasted time and money. Regrettably it is a fact that some mainlh use benefits to feed addictions, whether it be alcohol , tobacco or drugs. |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 4, 2021 11:23:09 GMT
There is a huge public debate to be had on UBI (Universal Basic Income). There is also a huge (but separate) debate to be had on drug use which encompasses possible decriminalisation of possession and use, regulation of supply, and availability and efficacy of support services. To conflate the two issues as Shaun Bailey has done here is unhelpful and divisive. Some issues are intrinsically linked, so looking at A in isolation , which will have a knock on effect to B which is not being looked into, will just lead to chaos, and wasted time and money. Regrettably it is a fact that some mainlh use benefits to feed addictions, whether it be alcohol , tobacco or drugs. However what Bailey is doing is implying that UBI is causal when it comes to obtaining money for drugs, whereas all it does is replace another source of money, i.e. benefits. So the fact that UBI could be used to source drugs is not in itself a reason to oppose a UBI. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 11:31:08 GMT
Some issues are intrinsically linked, so looking at A in isolation , which will have a knock on effect to B which is not being looked into, will just lead to chaos, and wasted time and money. Regrettably it is a fact that some mainlh use benefits to feed addictions, whether it be alcohol , tobacco or drugs. However what Bailey is doing is implying that UBI is causal when it comes to obtaining money for drugs, whereas all it does is replace another source of money, i.e. benefits. So the fact that UBI could be used to source drugs is not in itself a reason to oppose a UBI. No it isn’t, but the point is UBI would only make these peoples lives worse through increased access to money which in turn would their access to substances easier. Yes, not everyone will abuse substances but for the minority they need access to help before money. |
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