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Post by COBO on May 8, 2021 22:33:27 GMT
Sadiq Khan has officially won according to the BBC news. Oh god no. I suppose that we had no better choice.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 22:36:12 GMT
Sadiq Khan has officially won according to the BBC news. Oh god no. I suppose that we had no better choice. To quote Kylie Minogue: “I'll forgive and forget If you say you'll never go 'Cause it's true what they say It's better the devil you know It's better the devil you know”
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 22:57:38 GMT
The good people of Hartlepool have cottoned onto how they've been treated with utter contempt by Labour. Don’t worry, the Tories will easily match that at some point and then both parties can call it a tie. lmao, excellent reply ; good comeback
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:01:37 GMT
I'm not sure that luck has much to do with it, whilst the successful vaccine rollout will have helped the clear message from the electorate is that they don't trust Labour and I think Kier Starmer might have to start considering his position. It's a shame because any government needs a decent opposition party to keep them on their toes. Think labour need to have some serious introspection on what issues they discuss. Seems like a party which is now supported more by the middle class and young Londoners rather than the working class What issues are the most pertinent? Jobs, development, way forward post brexit What issues are brought up by labour? LTNs, cycle everywhere, brexit is evil, second referendum, car owners are evil, house owners are evil etc etc
They will lose more till they get their act right. Or risk being taken over by far left loonies who frankly are as bad as far right loonies but are out on a pedestal for some reason It is not just Labour having these issues. LibDems are far worst, Paddy Ashdown would be turning in his grave. That is the problem. i have heard this evening on LBC Starmer is now going to take the party further right as it clearly is not working and they are alienating further voters.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:06:34 GMT
It’s almost 5Y now since the Brexit referendum (time flies!!!!) I narrowly voted remain (was sitting on the fence till erring on the side of caution as I really didn’t trust anyone to handle all negotiations for an orderly brexit). Now that the referendum is done, let’s respect the public vote - it’s not a best of 3 exercise where you keep having the referendum till you get a vote in your favour! It’s a fairly directionless party at the moment. A more organised party would have made life nightmarish for BoJo but these guys need to lose more before they learn a lesson Labour has lost out in the "red wall" areas of the North-East and West Midlands and may be struggling in London (although I still think Sadiq Khan is on target for a narrow victory and Assembly seats are holding). However Labour has quietly consolidated their hold on the Welsh Senedd where they now hold 30 of the 60 seats, and have been doing very well in North-West England where Andy Burnham in particular has held onto Greater Manchester by a landslide. It will be interesting to see how Labour pick themselves up, there will be some soul-searching and an inevitable reshuffle, and possibly a move to replace Keir Starmer as leader with one of the rising stars of the North-West. However I don't think they are the spent force that many seem to believe. Andy Burnham has done well. It is a shame we could not have him in London instead of Khan. He is no say a sore loser whinger like Khan and Burnham has criticised Boris, but not in the pathetic way Khan has and is trying to do the best for Manchester.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:09:08 GMT
Sadiq Khan has officially won according to the BBC news. Oh god no. I suppose that we had no better choice. But it was obvious he was going to win, although I always said, never by the margin the pollsters were saying. Even down to the idiot from London School of Economics who run one of the polls saying that it was still a landslide up to yesterday. We really need to question what many of the pollsters main objectives are, as these are the same people running these consultations and in effect are probably allowing all these stupid cycling warfare to be inflicted upon London by saying the majority want it and they do not. I honestly think we need a public inquiry into all these pollsters as they are basically poo stirrers. I also hope this teaches the Conservative party a lesson who initially hardly even bothered with Bailey, who seemed to have done far better than they expected. I also hope Khan takes crime seriously, as this was one of the main things people were concerned about, not all these stupid other follies he loves to have a jolly about.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:10:40 GMT
If they did, it clearly said "Stay at home, there's nothing for you here". Of the c.70,000 people eligible to vote, less than 30,000 actually bothered to express any kind of preference at all. That to me is the saddest aspect of the whole thing. I agree, politicians have to do a lot more to make the electorate care enough about politics to go out and vote. I’m not sure I’d go as far as Australia and make it mandatory but something needs to be done to get more people to the ballot box However, regardless of how many voted enough of them went blue, probably for the first time ever. The Labour Party is a shadow of its former self and appears to have lost a huge number of people it could previously count on to vote for them. Boris Johnson and the Conservatives haven’t handed the pandemic very well but despite this, it seems a lot of voters are buying what Johnson is selling, even lifelong Labour voters I don’t think anyone expected the race for London Mayor to be as close as it appears to have turned out to be. Again, Labour voters just aren’t convinced by the party any longer. I rather suspect the Conservatives have been kicking themselves today for not fielding a stronger candidate or, indeed, not backing Bailey harder. It would appear the London Mayoralty was there for the taking I believe they also trusted the pollsters and just fielded Bailey for the sake of it, not realising he could have possibly pulled it off if they tried.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:14:15 GMT
I have this question to ask. What are people's reasons for voting for Bailey? Is it because they can't stand Khan or the ULEZ situation or the crimes etc? I voted for Bailey, because I can no longer stand Khan, I was let down by his first term in office. He does not listen, is very arrogant. He comes across as fake and painting a fake image. I do not want to hear stupid soppy stories of his dad as a bus driver who did not even do a years service. I would rather he say, to the youth to aspire to be big, and how he came from the bottom and rose up. The crime situation which he has shunned, then the ULEZ etc. I was even prepared to possibly vote Count binface.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:19:36 GMT
Does anyone know how well Farah London has done and also Count Binface for giggles This doesn't include the last 10% of votes to be counted, but up until 90% Farah London: 0% of the vote Count Binface: 1% of the vote Others figures of interest Niko Omilana: 2% Laurence Fox: 2% Brian Rose: 1% Luisa Poritt has only achieved 4% of the vote according to the graph so far, but she might have just about passed the 5% boundary if these last 10% of results skewed in her favour. If she didn't that's a very poor showing for the LibDems and they'll not get their 10K deposit back. pmsl at Luisa Porrit (Porridge) she did not be individual enough and kept agreeing with Khan etc. She should resign, what a disgrace. I would have rather chose Farah London over her. Porrit seems to piggy banking on Sian Berry and Khan and never unique enough. I am actually surprised Fox made 2%, did not even think he would make 1%, never even knew he was an actor, just washed up from the scrapheap I guess. I should not laugh but think it is a bit funny that Brain Rose did not even beat Niko. After all Rose, seems to have a campaign on par with Bailey and must have spent millions doing it. Especially with the Hollywood style pics and videos; just laughing like crazy now.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 23:25:59 GMT
This doesn't include the last 10% of votes to be counted, but up until 90% Farah London: 0% of the vote Count Binface: 1% of the vote Others figures of interest Niko Omilana: 2% Laurence Fox: 2% Brian Rose: 1% Luisa Poritt has only achieved 4% of the vote according to the graph so far, but she might have just about passed the 5% boundary if these last 10% of results skewed in her favour. If she didn't that's a very poor showing for the LibDems and they'll not get their 10K deposit back. pmsl at Luisa Porrit (Porridge) she did not be individual enough and kept agreeing with Khan etc. She should resign, what a disgrace. I would have rather chose Farah London over her. Porrit seems to piggy banking on Sian Berry and Khan and never unique enough. I am actually surprised Fox made 2%, did not even think he would make 1%, never even knew he was an actor, just washed up from the scrapheap I guess. I should not laugh but think it is a bit funny that Brain Rose did not even beat Niko. After all Rose, seems to have a campaign on par with Bailey and must have spent millions doing it. Especially with the Hollywood style pics and videos; just laughing like crazy now. I think it was the urine drinking that destroyed any slim chance Brian Rose had. I think we all let out a collective shudder London wide upon seeing that.
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Post by vjaska on May 8, 2021 23:30:55 GMT
pmsl at Luisa Porrit (Porridge) she did not be individual enough and kept agreeing with Khan etc. She should resign, what a disgrace. I would have rather chose Farah London over her. Porrit seems to piggy banking on Sian Berry and Khan and never unique enough. I am actually surprised Fox made 2%, did not even think he would make 1%, never even knew he was an actor, just washed up from the scrapheap I guess. I should not laugh but think it is a bit funny that Brain Rose did not even beat Niko. After all Rose, seems to have a campaign on par with Bailey and must have spent millions doing it. Especially with the Hollywood style pics and videos; just laughing like crazy now. I think it was the urine drinking that destroyed any slim chance Brian Rose had. I think we all let out a collective shudder London wide upon seeing that. It was the fact he is literally an American businessmen that made stay well away from him - after my football club's dealing's with it's American owners, I couldn't elect someone like that plus I didn't really agree with his policies. TBH, none of the candidates impressed me fully but there were things I liked from Farah which made me vote for her.
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:33:23 GMT
pmsl at Luisa Porrit (Porridge) she did not be individual enough and kept agreeing with Khan etc. She should resign, what a disgrace. I would have rather chose Farah London over her. Porrit seems to piggy banking on Sian Berry and Khan and never unique enough. I am actually surprised Fox made 2%, did not even think he would make 1%, never even knew he was an actor, just washed up from the scrapheap I guess. I should not laugh but think it is a bit funny that Brain Rose did not even beat Niko. After all Rose, seems to have a campaign on par with Bailey and must have spent millions doing it. Especially with the Hollywood style pics and videos; just laughing like crazy now. I think it was the urine drinking that destroyed any slim chance Brian Rose had. I think we all let out a collective shudder London wide upon seeing that. Urine Drinking? bahahahaha
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 23:34:26 GMT
I agree, politicians have to do a lot more to make the electorate care enough about politics to go out and vote. I’m not sure I’d go as far as Australia and make it mandatory but something needs to be done to get more people to the ballot box However, regardless of how many voted enough of them went blue, probably for the first time ever. The Labour Party is a shadow of its former self and appears to have lost a huge number of people it could previously count on to vote for them. Boris Johnson and the Conservatives haven’t handed the pandemic very well but despite this, it seems a lot of voters are buying what Johnson is selling, even lifelong Labour voters I don’t think anyone expected the race for London Mayor to be as close as it appears to have turned out to be. Again, Labour voters just aren’t convinced by the party any longer. I rather suspect the Conservatives have been kicking themselves today for not fielding a stronger candidate or, indeed, not backing Bailey harder. It would appear the London Mayoralty was there for the taking I believe they also trusted the pollsters and just fielded Bailey for the sake of it, not realising he could have possibly pulled it off if they tried. Shaun Bailey was selected by London Conservative party members all the way back in 2018. I can 100% guarantee you it was democratic selection by the London Conservative party members, I know because I met every candidate and for me he was the best. One of the others was some American woman who is now an MP and some other boring white block who looked like Corbyn.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 23:35:35 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on May 8, 2021 23:37:13 GMT
Sadiq Khan has officially won according to the BBC news. Of course with a reduced majority from 2016, which in my opinion was always expected when you’ve got such a wide field of candidates, if there were less of them it could have been a different story. Personally I think Shaun Bailey did incredibly well to defy the polls. Interestingly the BBC is only showing a 41% turnout, down on 2016 so that could also explain the reduction. The bright spark is that we still have the same level of opposition within city hall to hold the mayor to account which is what I always wanted in this election. Whether Kahn and central government are going to play nice is a story for another day, but I’m hoping both will see merit in working together. One good thing is that UKIP are no longer on the London Assembly. Conservative gained 1, Labour lost 1, Green gained 1, Liberal gained 1. Also if Lib Dems are not careful, the greens would end up being the third party in the country.
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