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Post by lonmark on Mar 15, 2021 3:48:03 GMT
I don't know what to say but I am hoping for more bus service running for evening and weekend as well. click here |
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Post by busman on Mar 15, 2021 7:43:18 GMT
Very promising from a passenger perspective. The concept of a daily price cap is an interesting one. I can’t see that going down too well with local monopolies around the country. Councils will need to be better funded in order to ensure better services on less profitable routes and times of the day. The headlines make for good reading, but the impact will depend upon the implementation. I can see the bulk of that £3bn being passed through to UK bus manufacturers, with the remainder going towards consulting and infrastructure.
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 15, 2021 7:46:25 GMT
End the sale of diesel buses - So does that nean we have a suitable 7/8/9m EV or Hydrogen bus on the market?
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 15, 2021 9:05:42 GMT
Very promising from a passenger perspective. The concept of a daily price cap is an interesting one. I can’t see that going down too well with local monopolies around the country. Councils will need to be better funded in order to ensure better services on less profitable routes and times of the day. The headlines make for good reading, but the impact will depend upon the implementation. I can see the bulk of that £3bn being passed through to UK bus manufacturers, with the remainder going towards consulting and infrastructure. I can just see it leading to more and more routes being withdrawn which is far from promising from a passenger perspective. |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 15, 2021 9:08:07 GMT
The single best thing this Government can do is ringfence funding for bus services. That needs to be accompanied by clear guidelines as to what is the minimum level of service that a local authority is expected to support.
This is echoed by Martin Griffiths, CEO of Stagecoach: [It is] " 'critical' the new strategy was matched with 'the right level of funding' and consistent government policy on buses."
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 15, 2021 9:19:23 GMT
End the sale of diesel buses - So does that nean we have a suitable 7/8/9m EV or Hydrogen bus on the market? Optare (or Switch Mobility since we are talking electrics) offers a 9.2m electric Solo. And Nottingham City Council is trialling a 15-seater electric minibus as part of its EVE (Electric Van Experience) trials. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 15, 2021 9:32:56 GMT
End the sale of diesel buses - So does that nean we have a suitable 7/8/9m EV or Hydrogen bus on the market? Optare (or Switch Mobility since we are talking electrics) offers a 9.2m electric Solo. And Nottingham City Council is trialling a 15-seater electric minibus as part of its EVE (Electric Van Experience) trials. What about routes such as the H2/H3/631 which can't take the 9.2m Solo's yet need more capacity than minibuses? |
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Post by wirewiper on Mar 15, 2021 9:57:37 GMT
Optare (or Switch Mobility since we are talking electrics) offers a 9.2m electric Solo. And Nottingham City Council is trialling a 15-seater electric minibus as part of its EVE (Electric Van Experience) trials. What about routes such as the H2/H3/631 which can't take the 9.2m Solo's yet need more capacity than minibuses? The H2 group needed a niche solution, a suitable electric bus for these routes does not exist at the moment as it is not economical to supply one. However with the Government clearly moving towards a future ban on new diesel vehicles, and bearing in mind some operators have already pledged they will not buy any (First from 2022 and National Express West Midlands already has the policy in place) it won't be too long before a manufacturer offers smaller vehicles. Bear in mind that routes like the H2 that need niche vehicles are uncommon, even outside London. Even the R8 seems to cope with standard-size vehicles now. |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 15, 2021 12:28:50 GMT
Given this is only aimed at non London, that’s where I’ll focus on:
Affordable or value for money fares outside London can be achieved but it really depends on who is doing it. National Express West Midlands day ticket roughly matches the Oyster Card cap without much restrictions - I managed to ride out to Wolverhampton, West Bromwich & Coventry on the same ticket and I believe I could of went out to Walsall if I had more time which is superb coverage over a large area. You also have the discovery ticket which can be brought from many operators across an area covering from Kent to Hampshire via Surrey & both Sussex counties - for the price of that ticket, the coverage is excellent and also has very few restrictions too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 17:46:02 GMT
Reading some of the reader comments on this BBC news story makes you realise just how bad buses are outside London. Think they will have trouble getting people out of cars back to the buses.
Miles of new bus lanes and more services promised
Also Boris once again confirms he is a bus enthusiast  Wonder if he has a secret account here!
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Post by capitalomnibus on Mar 20, 2021 22:34:03 GMT
Reading some of the reader comments on this BBC news story makes you realise just how bad buses are outside London. Think they will have trouble getting people out of cars back to the buses.
Miles of new bus lanes and more services promised
Also Boris once again confirms he is a bus enthusiast Wonder if he has a secret account here!
Some parts outside London have equivalent or better services. |
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Wonder if he has a secret account here! 