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Post by Dillon95 on May 13, 2021 1:08:23 GMT
Yeah Catford is nearly gentrified these days but still has a way to go before it becomes the next New Cross :-D I thought New Cross was still a dump? It’s still a bit of a ghetto, but you get a quite a few arty farty hipster types around there now like in Peckham. It used to be all gangs.
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Post by vjaska on May 13, 2021 3:08:43 GMT
I thought New Cross was still a dump? It’s still a bit of a ghetto, but you get a quite a few arty farty hipster types around there now like in Peckham. It used to be all gangs. Interesting to hear that, I knew Peckham was starting to be gentrified but thought it had paused there for now - Brixton was done ages ago sadly and Streatham was following the same path pre pandemic
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Post by southlondonbus on May 13, 2021 5:05:13 GMT
These areas could change again as it has been reported (probably exaggerated) that people have been looking for more space outside of London due to working from home.
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Post by route53 on May 13, 2021 8:45:41 GMT
These areas could change again as it has been reported (probably exaggerated) that people have been looking for more space outside of London due to working from home. There must be some truth in that story, rent prices in London have dropped as landlords in London have struggled to get tenants, where as many towns in the Home Counties have had an increase of people moving there from London. I think Peckham and Brixton will keep its gentrified-ness and shabby chic look, New Cross is halfway between being a Peckham and being a Catford.
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Post by wirewiper on May 13, 2021 9:22:14 GMT
These areas could change again as it has been reported (probably exaggerated) that people have been looking for more space outside of London due to working from home. The "Work at home where possible" guidance is due to end on 21st June. Levels of home working will be higher than they were pre-pandemic, all it has done is to accelerate a trend that was already happening. Only one-third of workers have work that can be done from home anyway.
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Post by CircleLineofLife on May 14, 2021 16:37:23 GMT
These areas could change again as it has been reported (probably exaggerated) that people have been looking for more space outside of London due to working from home. There must be some truth in that story, rent prices in London have dropped as landlords in London have struggled to get tenants, where as many towns in the Home Counties have had an increase of people moving there from London. I think Peckham and Brixton will keep its gentrified-ness and shabby chic look, New Cross is halfway between being a Peckham and being a Catford. Well we all know what happened with Elephant and castle as well, studentification of the old shopping centre.
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 14, 2021 23:14:59 GMT
Yeah Catford is nearly gentrified these days but still has a way to go before it becomes the next New Cross :-D I thought New Cross was still a dump? Traffic wise it still is
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Post by someone on May 21, 2021 15:33:53 GMT
It’s still a bit of a ghetto, but you get a quite a few arty farty hipster types around there now like in Peckham. It used to be all gangs. Interesting to hear that, I knew Peckham was starting to be gentrified but thought it had paused there for now - Brixton was done ages ago sadly and Streatham was following the same path pre pandemic Yeah. On one of the lockdown walks I went on during the first lockdown, I walked to what appeared to be a trendy, Shoreditch-Brick-Lane-y regeneration of Amersham Road! Shame New Cross Station hasn't had its station building replaced. If there would be a replacement for New Cross's station entrance, it'll probable be like the ones at Kidbrooke and Wakefield Westgate.
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Post by 123ToLondon on May 20, 2022 16:08:42 GMT
Seven kings is probably one of the worst as 86 struggles and sometimes 169, and 364 is holding Ilford back roads,
Brixton is probably the best as everywhere seems to be easier to get by bus
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Post by aaron1 on May 20, 2022 20:23:42 GMT
It amazing that Willesden use to have the best route links like you use to go to Borehamwood, Greenwich, Catford, Lewisham Hackney, Chingford, Bow Road Edgware and Barnet
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Post by britishguy54 on Sept 25, 2023 14:29:49 GMT
Barking and Dagenham has a very sparse network.
In terms of connections, you can’t go further west than Stratford or Canning Town, and you can’t go further east than Rainham.
Night services are extremely lacking, especially between the A13 and A124.
Literally one bus (287) goes into Havering, but outside Romford. That’s kind of disappointing.
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Post by ronnie on Sept 25, 2023 15:55:27 GMT
Barking and Dagenham has a very sparse network. In terms of connections, you can’t go further west than Stratford or Canning Town, and you can’t go further east than Rainham. Night services are extremely lacking, especially between the A13 and A124. Literally one bus (287) goes into Havering, but outside Romford. That’s kind of disappointing. I agree, east London’s network, while being quite numerous in terms of the number of routes etc, is a bit sparse in geographical extent. Newham seems to have almost all the routes getting to East Ham by some weird twisty route or the other, 5 manages to get to Canning Town, 115 being the only one which gets anywhere. East of East Ham it’s even worse with same intertwined routes going round and round with no real straight routes getting to central (25 being a notable exception)
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Post by vjaska on Sept 25, 2023 16:13:51 GMT
Barking and Dagenham has a very sparse network. In terms of connections, you can’t go further west than Stratford or Canning Town, and you can’t go further east than Rainham. Night services are extremely lacking, especially between the A13 and A124. Literally one bus (287) goes into Havering, but outside Romford. That’s kind of disappointing. I agree, east London’s network, while being quite numerous in terms of the number of routes etc, is a bit sparse in geographical extent. Newham seems to have almost all the routes getting to East Ham by some weird twisty route or the other, 5 manages to get to Canning Town, 115 being the only one which gets anywhere. East of East Ham it’s even worse with same intertwined routes going round and round with no real straight routes getting to central (25 being a notable exception) The key question to ask though is where are all the usual flows heading to - are they more locally constrained because that's where people want to go and instead, for further afield travel, people jump onto the tube or Eliabeth line?
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Post by WH241 on Sept 25, 2023 16:45:15 GMT
Barking and Dagenham has a very sparse network. In terms of connections, you can’t go further west than Stratford or Canning Town, and you can’t go further east than Rainham. Night services are extremely lacking, especially between the A13 and A124. Literally one bus (287) goes into Havering, but outside Romford. That’s kind of disappointing. I assume you talking about connections to places only using one bus? It's pretty similar in Newham but depends where you for example some parts of the borough have the 25 towards City Thanes Link where as other parts can only get as far as Aldgate.
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Post by britishguy54 on Sept 25, 2023 16:47:26 GMT
Barking and Dagenham has a very sparse network. In terms of connections, you can’t go further west than Stratford or Canning Town, and you can’t go further east than Rainham. Night services are extremely lacking, especially between the A13 and A124. Literally one bus (287) goes into Havering, but outside Romford. That’s kind of disappointing. I assume you talking about connections to places only using one bus? It's pretty similar in Newham but depends where you for example some parts of the borough have the 25 towards City Thameslink where as other parts can only get as far as Aldgate.
Barking and Dagenham doesn’t have the 25. That’s Redbridge you’re thinking of.
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