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Post by greenboy on Sept 30, 2023 19:52:07 GMT
Surely heads have got to roll...
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Post by greenboy on Sept 30, 2023 19:53:39 GMT
I know it's early days but Man Utd have had a poor start to the season! I wouldn't be surprised to see Ten Hag go by next summer however the managers always get the blame when this isn't the case and its the players that need improving. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before then, he appears to have lost the dressing room.
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Post by mkay315 on Sept 30, 2023 19:54:27 GMT
Surely heads have got to roll... Arsene Wenger was onto something when he said the refs in England are incompetent
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 30, 2023 20:00:39 GMT
I know it's early days but Man Utd have had a poor start to the season! I wouldn't be surprised to see Ten Hag go by next summer however the managers always get the blame when this isn't the case and its the players that need improving. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before then, he appears to have lost the dressing room. To be fair Man Utd are mediocre whoever is managing
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 30, 2023 20:00:53 GMT
Surely heads have got to roll... Liverpool were extremely unlucky at the end to concede that own goal, shows how strong a side they are despite such setbacks by the ref. He was going mad with the cards to both teams and it disrupted play. Good to see Spurs not unravel as they would have done under Conte, and to see attacking football throughout to the very end makes a change Still do not know if PGMOL will rule the game 2 all, or if it was just an empty apology. I think all the refs and VAR teams need re training so things are more consistent and the game flows better.
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 30, 2023 20:07:39 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone before then, he appears to have lost the dressing room. To be fair Man Utd are mediocre whoever is managing They were after Conte at one point Conte likes teams where he can overspend like HS2, perhaps they will be in touch
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Post by vjaska on Sept 30, 2023 23:30:46 GMT
Surely heads have got to roll... Liverpool were extremely unlucky at the end to concede that own goal, shows how strong a side they are despite such setbacks by the ref. He was going mad with the cards to both teams and it disrupted play. Good to see Spurs not unravel as they would have done under Conte, and to see attacking football throughout to the very end makes a change Still do not know if PGMOL will rule the game 2 all, or if it was just an empty apology. I think all the refs and VAR teams need re training so things are more consistent and the game flows better. They couldn't change the result, would be unfair on Spurs given it's not them who is essentially undertaking dodgy actions - they played the game fairly and got fortunate that the decisions went against Liverpool. I've long said the refs in this country are extremely incompetent and corrupt and this is more evidence of it. There was two VAR personal in the room when this incident occurred and whilst I could accept one could make an error, I surely expect the other to recognise this and try to correct it before play restarts. The two red cards were also incorrect IMO and it ruined what was an interesting match up until that point.
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Post by mkay315 on Oct 4, 2023 15:53:02 GMT
Yesterday's performance in the champions league is exactly why I didn't say these games were guaranteed 3 pointers.
Saka to be honest should not have been playing considering he's been carrying a knock for a while and has been playing a lot of games. He needs a rest (well now he's got one)
Sunday's game has got me to that point that if this team loses it won't phase a lot of people anymore which is sad.
I'm giving Arteta until the end of the season because he's been backed in the window. I'm hearing fans talk about how much they miss Xhaka like seriously have they forgotten how bad he was and how much problems he caused us over the years. He left on a high and I'm glad he's moved on.
Why oh why did we waste funds buying Havertz. This man couldn't even hit a barn door.
Raya and Ramsdale the jury's out on that.
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Post by Busboy105 on Oct 4, 2023 17:10:36 GMT
Yesterday's performance in the champions league is exactly why I didn't say these games were guaranteed 3 pointers. Saka to be honest should not have been playing considering he's been carrying a knock for a while and has been playing a lot of games. He needs a rest (well now he's got one) Sunday's game has got me to that point that if this team loses it won't phase a lot of people anymore which is sad. I'm giving Arteta until the end of the season because he's been backed in the window. I'm hearing fans talk about how much they miss Xhaka like seriously have they forgotten how bad he was and how much problems he caused us over the years. He left on a high and I'm glad he's moved on. Why oh why did we waste funds buying Havertz. This man couldn't even hit a barn door. Raya and Ramsdale the jury's out on that. Lens should have been a three pointer considering their form and position in the French league... Although a first home game in the Champions league for over 20 years might instill a bit of confidence in the players
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Post by mkay315 on Oct 4, 2023 17:58:58 GMT
Yesterday's performance in the champions league is exactly why I didn't say these games were guaranteed 3 pointers. Saka to be honest should not have been playing considering he's been carrying a knock for a while and has been playing a lot of games. He needs a rest (well now he's got one) Sunday's game has got me to that point that if this team loses it won't phase a lot of people anymore which is sad. I'm giving Arteta until the end of the season because he's been backed in the window. I'm hearing fans talk about how much they miss Xhaka like seriously have they forgotten how bad he was and how much problems he caused us over the years. He left on a high and I'm glad he's moved on. Why oh why did we waste funds buying Havertz. This man couldn't even hit a barn door. Raya and Ramsdale the jury's out on that. Lens should have been a three pointer considering their form and position in the French league... Although a first home game in the Champions league for over 20 years might instill a bit of confidence in the players In theory and on paper you could say that but knowing this team and how they play I wasn't surprised they'd do something like this. It's something I've been familiar with since the Wenger days.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 5, 2023 0:59:45 GMT
Yesterday's performance in the champions league is exactly why I didn't say these games were guaranteed 3 pointers. Saka to be honest should not have been playing considering he's been carrying a knock for a while and has been playing a lot of games. He needs a rest (well now he's got one) Sunday's game has got me to that point that if this team loses it won't phase a lot of people anymore which is sad. I'm giving Arteta until the end of the season because he's been backed in the window. I'm hearing fans talk about how much they miss Xhaka like seriously have they forgotten how bad he was and how much problems he caused us over the years. He left on a high and I'm glad he's moved on. Why oh why did we waste funds buying Havertz. This man couldn't even hit a barn door. Raya and Ramsdale the jury's out on that. Lens should have been a three pointer considering their form and position in the French league... Although a first home game in the Champions league for over 20 years might instill a bit of confidence in the players It was disappointing we didn't win that match but that's on the players - it was a poor performance and poor error by Raya but it should be remembered it's our first loss in any competition this season not that you know by the way some are overreacting, especially in the media. There has been a clear agenda against my club, for a while now, to exaggerate anything and everything we do: If we celebrate, it's an issue for us but when others do it, it's not If we rest a player, Arteta gets lambasted and if he doesn't, he gets lambasted - Saka's number of minutes on the pitch isn't actually the highest out there despite playing 87 consecutive games If we buy a good goalkeeper and change between him and Ramsdale, it's a massive issue except when Brighton do it, it's not mentioned at all Havertz has only come in the door and is trying to learn a brand new position yet gets far more criticism than other players in a similar boat yet look at Mount at United or several Chelsea players All I'm asking for sensible and constructive criticism and not over the top nonsense from these people.
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Post by mkay315 on Oct 5, 2023 8:19:19 GMT
Lens should have been a three pointer considering their form and position in the French league... Although a first home game in the Champions league for over 20 years might instill a bit of confidence in the players It was disappointing we didn't win that match but that's on the players - it was a poor performance and poor error by Raya but it should be remembered it's our first loss in any competition this season not that you know by the way some are overreacting, especially in the media. There has been a clear agenda against my club, for a while now, to exaggerate anything and everything we do: If we celebrate, it's an issue for us but when others do it, it's not If we rest a player, Arteta gets lambasted and if he doesn't, he gets lambasted - Saka's number of minutes on the pitch isn't actually the highest out there despite playing 87 consecutive games If we buy a good goalkeeper and change between him and Ramsdale, it's a massive issue except when Brighton do it, it's not mentioned at all Havertz has only come in the door and is trying to learn a brand new position yet gets far more criticism than other players in a similar boat yet look at Mount at United or several Chelsea players All I'm asking for sensible and constructive criticism and not over the top nonsense from these people. In what I said about Saka. You missed the fact that he's only 22. The guy needs a rest because he's at risk at being burnt out but Arteta insists on playing him along with Southgate (I'll come to him at another time). 87 games consecutively is a lot especially as young as he is. I personally would have benched Saka for that game and have him come on when and if the game was won around the closing minutes. Havertz I don't care but he's been in the league long enough to know what's expected of him. If this was 2020 when he came fresh from Leverkusen then I can say fair play but 3 years in and you're still playing rubbish nah he needs to fix up. How Chelsea managed to flog off their useless guys for a good sum and yet when it comes to Arsenal and their transfers they hardly get anything is mind boggling. As for Raya and Ramsdale the rest why I said the jury's out on that is because they're both good in their own way. In a way I felt as though Ramsdale needed to be kept on his toes as let's be real he didn't have any competition for his role. Zinchenko I feel as though hardly anyone talks about his mistakes and how much it cost us last season in particular in the Liverpool game that crying merchant. With Arteta I've been very critical about him for years and it will not change because I want my team to do well and I tried to tell people that NO game is a guaranteed win in the champions league when we got our fixture list. Like it's almost as though people didn't learn from the Wenger days when we played the likes of Monaco, Olympiacos, Sevilla, Barcelona etc....... Heck even last season when we was in the europa league. What happened we got eliminated by Sporting. As decent as they are we should have put away out chances. Not to mention Saliba and Tomiyasu got injured in that match, which of course you knew what happened next. I just hope that one day all the Arteta stans get off their high horse and actually see it for what it is. This man is a one competition type of manager he can't multitask for shxt.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 5, 2023 11:52:54 GMT
It was disappointing we didn't win that match but that's on the players - it was a poor performance and poor error by Raya but it should be remembered it's our first loss in any competition this season not that you know by the way some are overreacting, especially in the media. There has been a clear agenda against my club, for a while now, to exaggerate anything and everything we do: If we celebrate, it's an issue for us but when others do it, it's not If we rest a player, Arteta gets lambasted and if he doesn't, he gets lambasted - Saka's number of minutes on the pitch isn't actually the highest out there despite playing 87 consecutive games If we buy a good goalkeeper and change between him and Ramsdale, it's a massive issue except when Brighton do it, it's not mentioned at all Havertz has only come in the door and is trying to learn a brand new position yet gets far more criticism than other players in a similar boat yet look at Mount at United or several Chelsea players All I'm asking for sensible and constructive criticism and not over the top nonsense from these people. In what I said about Saka. You missed the fact that he's only 22. The guy needs a rest because he's at risk at being burnt out but Arteta insists on playing him along with Southgate (I'll come to him at another time). 87 games consecutively is a lot especially as young as he is. I personally would have benched Saka for that game and have him come on when and if the game was won around the closing minutes. Havertz I don't care but he's been in the league long enough to know what's expected of him. If this was 2020 when he came fresh from Leverkusen then I can say fair play but 3 years in and you're still playing rubbish nah he needs to fix up. How Chelsea managed to flog off their useless guys for a good sum and yet when it comes to Arsenal and their transfers they hardly get anything is mind boggling. As for Raya and Ramsdale the rest why I said the jury's out on that is because they're both good in their own way. In a way I felt as though Ramsdale needed to be kept on his toes as let's be real he didn't have any competition for his role. Zinchenko I feel as though hardly anyone talks about his mistakes and how much it cost us last season in particular in the Liverpool game that crying merchant. With Arteta I've been very critical about him for years and it will not change because I want my team to do well and I tried to tell people that NO game is a guaranteed win in the champions league when we got our fixture list. Like it's almost as though people didn't learn from the Wenger days when we played the likes of Monaco, Olympiacos, Sevilla, Barcelona etc....... Heck even last season when we was in the europa league. What happened we got eliminated by Sporting. As decent as they are we should have put away out chances. Not to mention Saliba and Tomiyasu got injured in that match, which of course you knew what happened next. I just hope that one day all the Arteta stans get off their high horse and actually see it for what it is. This man is a one competition type of manager he can't multitask for shxt. Are you trying to suggest I don’t want my team to do well because I’ve a different view to you?
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Post by mkay315 on Oct 5, 2023 12:12:19 GMT
In what I said about Saka. You missed the fact that he's only 22. The guy needs a rest because he's at risk at being burnt out but Arteta insists on playing him along with Southgate (I'll come to him at another time). 87 games consecutively is a lot especially as young as he is. I personally would have benched Saka for that game and have him come on when and if the game was won around the closing minutes. Havertz I don't care but he's been in the league long enough to know what's expected of him. If this was 2020 when he came fresh from Leverkusen then I can say fair play but 3 years in and you're still playing rubbish nah he needs to fix up. How Chelsea managed to flog off their useless guys for a good sum and yet when it comes to Arsenal and their transfers they hardly get anything is mind boggling. As for Raya and Ramsdale the rest why I said the jury's out on that is because they're both good in their own way. In a way I felt as though Ramsdale needed to be kept on his toes as let's be real he didn't have any competition for his role. Zinchenko I feel as though hardly anyone talks about his mistakes and how much it cost us last season in particular in the Liverpool game that crying merchant. With Arteta I've been very critical about him for years and it will not change because I want my team to do well and I tried to tell people that NO game is a guaranteed win in the champions league when we got our fixture list. Like it's almost as though people didn't learn from the Wenger days when we played the likes of Monaco, Olympiacos, Sevilla, Barcelona etc....... Heck even last season when we was in the europa league. What happened we got eliminated by Sporting. As decent as they are we should have put away out chances. Not to mention Saliba and Tomiyasu got injured in that match, which of course you knew what happened next. I just hope that one day all the Arteta stans get off their high horse and actually see it for what it is. This man is a one competition type of manager he can't multitask for shxt. Are you trying to suggest I don’t want my team to do well because I’ve a different view to you? At no point have I questioned your loyalty to the Gunners. I'm literally stating what has been going on and I've consistently done this. Even prior I have listed various years in where Arsenal have fallen short. (I'll put in the links later to reference my points). I'm happy in the sense we're in the champions league after a time of absence. What I'm not happy about is the way I'm seeing this team play rubbish where the standards have been set high previously and I don't want us to be in the competition just taking up space as we did during the Wenger years. 20 plus years in the competition and one final to show for it. That is disgraceful and that is a fact.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Oct 6, 2023 14:40:47 GMT
Lady Cathy Ferguson, wife of Sir Alex Ferguson has died aged 84. May her soul rest in peace.
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