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Post by southlondonbus on May 25, 2022 12:18:50 GMT
They gotta be close to 300 now right? And by all accounts there's said to be more to come but with restructurings rather than frequency changes Thou we keep hearing that then nothing is announced. Personally I think a few restructurings would be better then so many routes with unattractive freqs like the 7, 11, 12, 15, 341 every 12 mins now.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 12:19:28 GMT
No it hasn’t, it was one of the first Arriva routes to see a cut. The 137 is the last one now the 243 has been cut Can’t be many zone 1 routes left not taken a cut, the 139 comes to mind Was it?
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Post by TB123 on May 25, 2022 12:35:06 GMT
And by all accounts there's said to be more to come but with restructurings rather than frequency changes Thou we keep hearing that then nothing is announced. Personally I think a few restructurings would be better then so many routes with unattractive freqs like the 7, 11, 12, 15, 341 every 12 mins now. There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water
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Post by southlondonbus on May 25, 2022 12:40:20 GMT
Thou we keep hearing that then nothing is announced. Personally I think a few restructurings would be better then so many routes with unattractive freqs like the 7, 11, 12, 15, 341 every 12 mins now. There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water Southall may have new proposals for the 427 and H32 which still haven't changed.
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Post by TB123 on May 25, 2022 12:48:13 GMT
There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water Southall may have new proposals for the 427 and H32 which still haven't changed. H32 proposal is off the table, replaced by a new 495 route. There are some plans to extend the 427 to serve a new housing development.
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Post by vjaska on May 25, 2022 12:53:31 GMT
No it hasn’t, it was one of the first Arriva routes to see a cut. The 137 is the last one now the 243 has been cut Can’t be many zone 1 routes left not taken a cut, the 139 comes to mind Was it? Yes, it lost 1-2 buses when it was cut which was pre pandemic IIRC
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Post by ADH45258 on May 25, 2022 13:15:42 GMT
Thou we keep hearing that then nothing is announced. Personally I think a few restructurings would be better then so many routes with unattractive freqs like the 7, 11, 12, 15, 341 every 12 mins now. There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water Perhaps the Brent Cross proposals might coincide with the opening of the Thameslink station later this year?
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Post by DT 11 on May 25, 2022 13:16:37 GMT
243 down to 26 buses and 341 down to 18 from what I hear - that's at least 10-12 HVs surplus - ideal for something like the 368. Or 417? Cannot really see the allocation of Ts being reduced because of the 157 especially as both routes are quite near the end of the contract, however nothing stopping type training THs drivers on Hybrids. 368 I would not be surprised, due to be announced in June. I would not expect new blinds to be ordered unless the route is retained at DX is the only garage in London that does not have smart blinds.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 13:19:16 GMT
Southall may have new proposals for the 427 and H32 which still haven't changed. H32 proposal is off the table, replaced by a new 495 route. There are some plans to extend the 427 to serve a new housing development. Also for route E5 to terminate at Merrick Road with the new proposed 495 terminating at Toplocks.
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Post by SILENCED on May 25, 2022 13:25:27 GMT
Cannot really see the allocation of Ts being reduced because of the 157 especially as both routes are quite near the end of the contract, however nothing stopping type training THs drivers on Hybrids. 368 I would not be surprised, due to be announced in June. I would not expect new blinds to be ordered unless the route is retained at DX is the only garage in London that does not have smart blinds. I thought about blinds for the 368 ... is this the same weekend that the 50 was reported it's due to move to TC?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 13:53:22 GMT
Thou we keep hearing that then nothing is announced. Personally I think a few restructurings would be better then so many routes with unattractive freqs like the 7, 11, 12, 15, 341 every 12 mins now. There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water Brent Cross/Cricklewood and Southall consultations to be dropped by early summer, but Edmonton/Meridian Water not sure but I should expect around the same time as the other two but maybe later in the summer, I expect 349 is involved but it will be interesting to see what else is involved/proposed (I would also expect 259, 341 and 476 to be involved). I heard there is also an Uxbridge one dropping later this year but not in the summer, so I believe late 2022.
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Post by VMH2537 on May 25, 2022 14:35:06 GMT
There's been other things in the way like funding deals and election purdah. Probable now we will see something. I suspect any proposal will do that sort thing. Also there will be 3 outer London consultations dropping soon - Brent Cross/Cricklewood (316 is being extended I hear), Southall and Edmonton/Meridian Water Brent Cross/Cricklewood and Southall consultations to be dropped by early summer, but Edmonton/Meridian Water not sure but I should expect around the same time as the other two but maybe later in the summer, I expect 349 is involved but it will be interesting to see what else is involved/proposed (I would also expect 259, 341 and 476 to be involved). I heard there is also an Uxbridge one dropping later this year but not in the summer, so I believe late 2022. It's been said that TFL are reviewing Meridian Water this spring & summer so I won't expect a consultation yet until at least next year or end of this year. However we should see a development paper published soon afterwards on the latest proposals. I suspect there will be a consultation on the first phase of the development which is planned to be completed in 2024. Routes like the 341/476/259 may be involved as you said also routes W6 and W8 which are up due to start contracts in 2024 as they also been mentioned in past papers for the development.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 14:40:13 GMT
Brent Cross/Cricklewood and Southall consultations to be dropped by early summer, but Edmonton/Meridian Water not sure but I should expect around the same time as the other two but maybe later in the summer, I expect 349 is involved but it will be interesting to see what else is involved/proposed (I would also expect 259, 341 and 476 to be involved). I heard there is also an Uxbridge one dropping later this year but not in the summer, so I believe late 2022. It's been said that TFL are reviewing Meridian Water this spring & summer so I won't expect a consultation yet until at least next year or end of this year. However we should see a development paper published soon afterwards on the latest proposals. I suspect there will be a consultation on the first phase of the development which is planned to be completed in 2024. Routes like the 341/476/259 may be involved as you said also routes W6 and W8 which are up due to start contracts in 2024 as they also been mentioned in past papers for the development. W6s new contract starts in February 2025 not 2024, but it's result should be announced in 2024.
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Post by southlondonbus on May 25, 2022 14:57:36 GMT
Brent Cross/Cricklewood and Southall consultations to be dropped by early summer, but Edmonton/Meridian Water not sure but I should expect around the same time as the other two but maybe later in the summer, I expect 349 is involved but it will be interesting to see what else is involved/proposed (I would also expect 259, 341 and 476 to be involved). I heard there is also an Uxbridge one dropping later this year but not in the summer, so I believe late 2022. It's been said that TFL are reviewing Meridian Water this spring & summer so I won't expect a consultation yet until at least next year or end of this year. However we should see a development paper published soon afterwards on the latest proposals. I suspect there will be a consultation on the first phase of the development which is planned to be completed in 2024. Routes like the 341/476/259 may be involved as you said also routes W6 and W8 which are up due to start contracts in 2024 as they also been mentioned in past papers for the development. The 349 is long overdue so id imagine a proposal is sooner then 2024 to start otherwise I'd have thought TFL would have awarded it on a shorter contract by now.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 15:04:46 GMT
It's been said that TFL are reviewing Meridian Water this spring & summer so I won't expect a consultation yet until at least next year or end of this year. However we should see a development paper published soon afterwards on the latest proposals. I suspect there will be a consultation on the first phase of the development which is planned to be completed in 2024. Routes like the 341/476/259 may be involved as you said also routes W6 and W8 which are up due to start contracts in 2024 as they also been mentioned in past papers for the development. The 349 is long overdue so id imagine a proposal is sooner then 2024 to start otherwise I'd have thought TFL would have awarded it on a shorter contract by now. I can see 349 being extended until March 2024, which is when routes such as 76 and 259 are due to start new contracts, this is just a thought but time will tell.
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