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Post by southlondonbus on May 24, 2022 14:18:08 GMT
So its mentioned 52 will be having an PVR cut of -2 i.e. every 10 mins. Means 98 and 6 could also see cuts in future if key is £££ even with high usage. Not exactly routes that exclusively carry air. Terrible idea. The 98 maybe but I dount the 6 would drop now that is dosent have the 414 running alongside it. It's worth noting with the 52 that even at the new freq there are still 12 bph between Kensal Rise and Knightsbridge so should be able to cope. Ofcourse that doesn't mean a bus every 5 mins as inevitably both will like arrive at the same time in London.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 24, 2022 21:36:29 GMT
So its mentioned 52 will be having an PVR cut of -2 i.e. every 10 mins. Means 98 and 6 could also see cuts in future if key is £££ even with high usage. Not exactly routes that exclusively carry air. Terrible idea. Route 98 is a maybe, probably to 7bph. TFL were not intending to change the frequency to route 6 when route 414 was being cut to Marble Arch and I think it should still remain untouched.
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Post by VWH1413 on May 24, 2022 22:25:08 GMT
Good points on the 98 being an possibility and the 6 less likely to have an decrease due the 414 heavily cut back. I guess with the 52 still having 12 bph around it's key routing isn't as bad, but do remember it getting quite rammed several times I used it.
I mention 6 and 98, as I foresee those getting cut (large quantity) and have been an few cases where does feel like cuts do go too far(7 and 113 come to mind).
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 7:33:44 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June.
159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?)
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Post by TB123 on May 25, 2022 7:42:58 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?) 243 down to 26 buses and 341 down to 18 from what I hear - that's at least 10-12 HVs surplus - ideal for something like the 368.
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Post by SILENCED on May 25, 2022 7:57:29 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?) If my records that only exist in my head are correct, every Arriva route that enters zone 1 has seen a reduction in frequency since the 300pvr reduction was announced, with the exception if 137. Info is in my head, so margin for error is huge.
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Post by SILENCED on May 25, 2022 7:59:28 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?) 243 down to 26 buses and 341 down to 18 from what I hear - that's at least 10-12 HVs surplus - ideal for something like the 368. Or 417?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 8:00:07 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?) If my records that only exist in my head are correct, every Arriva route that enters zone 1 has seen a reduction in frequency since the 300pvr reduction was announced, with the exception if 137. Info is in my head, so margin for error is huge. Will not be surprising if 137 is reduced as well, maybe later in the year.
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Post by TB123 on May 25, 2022 8:01:58 GMT
243 down to 26 buses and 341 down to 18 from what I hear - that's at least 10-12 HVs surplus - ideal for something like the 368. Or 417? Indeed that also.
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 25, 2022 8:03:03 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) 243 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: maybe -4 (from 32 to 28? ) 341 will be reduced to every 12 minutes. PVR: maybe -2 or 3 (from 22 to 19/20?) If my records that only exist in my head are correct, every Arriva route that enters zone 1 has seen a reduction in frequency since the 300pvr reduction was announced, with the exception if 137. Info is in my head, so margin for error is huge. 319 has been untouched.
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Post by M1104 on May 25, 2022 9:04:48 GMT
159, 243 and 341 are next in line from 11 June. 159 will be reduced to every 8 minutes. PVR: -5 (from 25 to 20) I'm guessing the surplus may move to the 415 to free up some of the temporary allocation of MMC E40Hs.
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Post by vjaska on May 25, 2022 11:06:52 GMT
If my records that only exist in my head are correct, every Arriva route that enters zone 1 has seen a reduction in frequency since the 300pvr reduction was announced, with the exception if 137. Info is in my head, so margin for error is huge. 319 has been untouched. No it hasn’t, it was one of the first Arriva routes to see a cut. The 137 is the last one now the 243 has been cut Can’t be many zone 1 routes left not taken a cut, the 139 comes to mind
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Post by Busboy105 on May 25, 2022 11:44:41 GMT
They gotta be close to 300 now right?
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Post by SILENCED on May 25, 2022 11:52:50 GMT
My logic around the 417 was that it would also allow the remaining 59-reg Ts to go off lease, and their existing massive bank of G3 B5LHs. Since realised the logic is flawed as 368 (DX) could send further Ts to N to replace them
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Post by TB123 on May 25, 2022 12:03:37 GMT
They gotta be close to 300 now right? And by all accounts there's said to be more to come but with restructurings rather than frequency changes
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