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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 17, 2022 8:01:22 GMT
I guess the real questions regarding the scandal are:
1. Who are these 8 “John Does” Maxwell is keeping secret?
2. Will Ghislaine go out the same way that Epstein & ultimately her father did?
3. Why are the media not picking up on people such as Naomi Campbell of whom witnessed this & flew on the private jet, as well as having Epstein & even some of the victims at her parties?
4. Will any further arrests be made?
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 17, 2022 14:28:53 GMT
I guess the real questions regarding the scandal are: 1. Who are these 8 “John Does” Maxwell is keeping secret? 2. Will Ghislaine go out the same way that Epstein & ultimately her father did? 3. Why are the media not picking up on people such as Naomi Campbell of whom witnessed this & flew on the private jet, as well as having Epstein & even some of the victims at her parties? 4. Will any further arrests be made? I think with regards Naomi Campbell, it was not like she was a regular visitor to Epstein, paths may have crossed due to celebrity lifestyle. As a Royal, whether minor or major, there's certain protocols. They can barely have a normal life if not dodging courtiers and everyone checking up on them. Andrew being quite high up the pecking order will heap more shame on the already doomed Monarchy. I don't think much will happen out of respect for the Queen, already frail and along in years. Then there's the scandal with Charles' charity and getting someone citizenship in return for cash donations (allegedly). I think for Andrew, enough has been done. He's being decommissioned, never to see use again (Wayfarer, iBus and blinds removed and stuck at the back of the garage)  I think there will be a rethink of the Royals when the inevitable happens. Charles has been known to meddle in politics and matters of the day, and they are supposed to remain neutral and away from it, like the Queen always had. Then there's Harry, but that's a topic for another day  |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 17, 2022 14:49:06 GMT
I guess the real questions regarding the scandal are: 1. Who are these 8 “John Does” Maxwell is keeping secret? 2. Will Ghislaine go out the same way that Epstein & ultimately her father did? 3. Why are the media not picking up on people such as Naomi Campbell of whom witnessed this & flew on the private jet, as well as having Epstein & even some of the victims at her parties? 4. Will any further arrests be made? I think with regards Naomi Campbell, it was not like she was a regular visitor to Epstein, paths may have crossed due to celebrity lifestyle. As a Royal, whether minor or major, there's certain protocols. They can barely have a normal life if not dodging courtiers and everyone checking up on them. Andrew being quite high up the pecking order will heap more shame on the already doomed Monarchy. I don't think much will happen out of respect for the Queen, already frail and along in years. Then there's the scandal with Charles' charity and getting someone citizenship in return for cash donations (allegedly). I think for Andrew, enough has been done. He's being decommissioned, never to see use again (Wayfarer, iBus and blinds removed and stuck at the back of the garage)  I think there will be a rethink of the Royals when the inevitable happens. Charles has been known to meddle in politics and matters of the day, and they are supposed to remain neutral and away from it, like the Queen always had. Then there's Harry, but that's a topic for another day  Yes but with Naomi Campbell this is not the only person of the kind that she has crossed paths with. What about her association with Harvey Weinstein and all the times she was at parties with him? All the times she was with Ghislaine at parties, Virginia saying she saw her at Epstein's properties, her being pictured and looking comfortable with Kevin Spacey? Come on, she clearly knows something about what happened and her having travelled on his private jet shows that there is somewhat a deeper connection between them. They all moved within the same circle
What I can respect from Naomi though is that she at least admitted she knew Epstein (even if it was a very self centred admission) when everyone else associated with him, in pictures with him, tried to pretend they didn't know him. Bit off topic, but with the Savile case everybody at the BBC tried to pretend they knew about nothing that was happening and many shrugged it off as "workplace rumours". I heavily doubt it was "workplace rumours" they were very happy to sit idly by and let this happen for the sake of their careers especially when Johnny Rotten pointed it out he was then banned from the BBC. I imagine it was somewhat a similar case with this case and that is all the people attending the parties, all the dinners & especially his mansions across New Mexico, New York & Little St James likely knew exactly what was going on. LVH admitted in the recent ITV documentary that everyone wanted Ghislaine & Jeffrey at their parties and that if you weren't in their black book you very simply "didn't exist". So I imagine people wanted to stay relevant even though they were very aware of what was taking place.
Can't speak too much on the royal family but Prince Andrew is definitely done for. There is no coming back for him from this although I imagine he'll try to come back. It should be interesting if under Charles' reign he'll attempt to kick him out if he does in fact downsize the monarchy, just like YX10FFN suggested. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Feb 17, 2022 16:12:21 GMT
Yes but with Naomi Campbell this is not the only person of the kind that she has crossed paths with. What about her association with Harvey Weinstein and all the times she was at parties with him? All the times she was with Ghislaine at parties, Virginia saying she saw her at Epstein's properties, her being pictured and looking comfortable with Kevin Spacey? Come on, she clearly knows something about what happened and her having travelled on his private jet shows that there is somewhat a deeper connection between them. They all moved within the same circle
What I can respect from Naomi though is that she at least admitted she knew Epstein (even if it was a very self centred admission) when everyone else associated with him, in pictures with him, tried to pretend they didn't know him. Bit off topic, but with the Savile case everybody at the BBC tried to pretend they knew about nothing that was happening and many shrugged it off as "workplace rumours". I heavily doubt it was "workplace rumours" they were very happy to sit idly by and let this happen for the sake of their careers especially when Johnny Rotten pointed it out he was then banned from the BBC. I imagine it was somewhat a similar case with this case and that is all the people attending the parties, all the dinners & especially his mansions across New Mexico, New York & Little St James likely knew exactly what was going on. LVH admitted in the recent ITV documentary that everyone wanted Ghislaine & Jeffrey at their parties and that if you weren't in their black book you very simply "didn't exist". So I imagine people wanted to stay relevant even though they were very aware of what was taking place.
Can't speak too much on the royal family but Prince Andrew is definitely done for. There is no coming back for him from this although I imagine he'll try to come back. It should be interesting if under Charles' reign he'll attempt to kick him out if he does in fact downsize the monarchy, just like YX10FFN suggested. Sadly I think a factor in how Andrew has been protected by his own family is that it's well known he is the Queen's favourite child. It will indeed be interesting to see what Charles' attitude to all this is. It would do him well to make sweeping modernisation efforts to make the family more appealing in the current social climate, southlondon413 made some good points regarding this. The bottom line is as I said in my previous post, the Royal Family are well aware of public relations and I'm sure they are well aware that re-entering Andrew into public service would be a disaster for the family. |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Mar 10, 2022 15:43:26 GMT
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Post by southlondon413 on Mar 10, 2022 18:16:21 GMT
Nothing wrong with a man lending his brother money from his own private funds. |
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I think there will be a rethink of the Royals when the inevitable happens. Charles has been known to meddle in politics and matters of the day, and they are supposed to remain neutral and away from it, like the Queen always had. Then there's Harry, but that's a topic for another day 
I think there will be a rethink of the Royals when the inevitable happens. Charles has been known to meddle in politics and matters of the day, and they are supposed to remain neutral and away from it, like the Queen always had. Then there's Harry, but that's a topic for another day 
