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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 16, 2022 16:06:26 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Feb 16, 2022 16:22:48 GMT
I suspect he might relinquish the title voluntarily to avoid anymore controversy. Oh the grand old Duke of York, He had 12 million quid, And he gave it all to an American girl, For something he never did 😳 |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 16, 2022 16:29:20 GMT
I suspect he might relinquish the title voluntarily to avoid anymore controversy. Oh the grand old Duke of York, He had 12 million quid, And he gave it all to an American girl, For something he never did 😳 An American girl he claims to have never met 🤣 |
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 16, 2022 18:11:36 GMT
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Post by ronnie on Feb 16, 2022 22:28:50 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible!
Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 16, 2022 23:06:49 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers Wouldn’t be too surprised if we funded it. I mean I wonder how much we funded of Prince Andrews socialising in the early 00s. Really interesting to see all the friends of Andrew jumping out in his defence, Lady Victoria Hervey, Sarah Ferguson (his ex wife), Lizzie Cundy etc, wonder how much they all knew about what was going on, especially the first two. I mean he had plenty of weirdos around him, Kevin Spacey, Maxwell, Epstein etc The Royal Family really is on its last legs. The racism accusations from Meghan, the Epstein case, the Jimmy Savile case, I imagine this has all built up to the family’s downfall. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 16, 2022 23:16:47 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers But it isn’t taxpayers money. The Queen gets the sovereign grant which is made up entirely of profits from the Crown Estate. Currently 75% of the profit goes back to the treasury with the remaining 25% going to the Queen, so she’s not really taxpayer funded. Besides I’d fully expect some major reforms under Charles to make the monarchy more 21st century friendly. So I’d fully expect him to drop houses like Buckingham Palace and dead weight royals like Eugenie in favour of a much smaller Spanish or Nordic style monarchy where the emphasis is on a core set of 5 or 6 family members. |
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Post by YX10FFN on Feb 16, 2022 23:23:51 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers Wouldn’t be too surprised if we funded it. I mean I wonder how much we funded of Prince Andrews socialising in the early 00s. Really interesting to see all the friends of Andrew jumping out in his defence, Lady Victoria Hervey, Sarah Ferguson (his ex wife), Lizzie Cundy etc, wonder how much they all knew about what was going on, especially the first two. I mean he had plenty of weirdos around him, Kevin Spacey, Maxwell, Epstein etc The Royal Family really is on its last legs. The racism accusations from Meghan, the Epstein case, the Jimmy Savile case, I imagine this has all built up to the family’s downfall. The period from the Bashir interview to Diana's death (probably the 90s in general) was similarly dreadful and they managed to survive that. They've had calculated responses (for better or for worse) to just about every scandal but their decision to protect Andrew at all costs was very misjudged in my opinion. Despite being a royalist myself I do not like the prospect of a Charles monarchy and the blind support the royals had at the last coronation in 1952 has somewhat vanished. |
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Post by ronnie on Feb 16, 2022 23:27:27 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers Wouldn’t be too surprised if we funded it. I mean I wonder how much we funded of Prince Andrews socialising in the early 00s. Really interesting to see all the friends of Andrew jumping out in his defence, Lady Victoria Hervey, Sarah Ferguson (his ex wife), Lizzie Cundy etc, wonder how much they all knew about what was going on, especially the first two. I mean he had plenty of weirdos around him, Kevin Spacey, Maxwell, Epstein etc The Royal Family really is on its last legs. The racism accusations from Meghan, the Epstein case, the Jimmy Savile case, I imagine this has all built up to the family’s downfall. This may be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Let’s see I would rather my tax money was used to help someone needy than fund the excesses of a p****phile frankly. Alas it’s not in my control |
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Post by southlondon413 on Feb 16, 2022 23:34:04 GMT
Wouldn’t be too surprised if we funded it. I mean I wonder how much we funded of Prince Andrews socialising in the early 00s. Really interesting to see all the friends of Andrew jumping out in his defence, Lady Victoria Hervey, Sarah Ferguson (his ex wife), Lizzie Cundy etc, wonder how much they all knew about what was going on, especially the first two. I mean he had plenty of weirdos around him, Kevin Spacey, Maxwell, Epstein etc The Royal Family really is on its last legs. The racism accusations from Meghan, the Epstein case, the Jimmy Savile case, I imagine this has all built up to the family’s downfall. This may be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Let’s see I would rather my tax money was used to help someone needy than fund the excesses of a p****phile frankly. Alas it’s not in my control Can I suggest you do some research on how the royal family is funded as it is entirely false to say they are funded by tax money. Their money comes from the sovereign grant which is made up of profit from the crown estate, no taxpayer money is used. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 17, 2022 0:39:57 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers Nonsense. So Boris etc is not also living off tax payers money. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 17, 2022 0:43:34 GMT
Wouldn’t be too surprised if we funded it. I mean I wonder how much we funded of Prince Andrews socialising in the early 00s. Really interesting to see all the friends of Andrew jumping out in his defence, Lady Victoria Hervey, Sarah Ferguson (his ex wife), Lizzie Cundy etc, wonder how much they all knew about what was going on, especially the first two. I mean he had plenty of weirdos around him, Kevin Spacey, Maxwell, Epstein etc The Royal Family really is on its last legs. The racism accusations from Meghan, the Epstein case, the Jimmy Savile case, I imagine this has all built up to the family’s downfall. This may be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Let’s see I would rather my tax money was used to help someone needy than fund the excesses of a p****phile frankly. Alas it’s not in my control And I guess your next step is that everyone should have the same money, no one should be millionaires etc. Unfortunately we live in a real world where nothing would be equal. |
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Post by ronnie on Feb 17, 2022 7:40:10 GMT
This may be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Let’s see I would rather my tax money was used to help someone needy than fund the excesses of a p****phile frankly. Alas it’s not in my control Can I suggest you do some research on how the royal family is funded as it is entirely false to say they are funded by tax money. Their money comes from the sovereign grant which is made up of profit from the crown estate, no taxpayer money is used. I’m aware and I am not saying that all the money comes from the public. Plus if there is an “alternative” system there will always be taxpayer funded costs so it’s not as if it will be a 100% saving. Point which I was making (which seems to have got lost) is that the settlement money should not be coming from taxpayer money although you do run into the question of how to distinguish it from the monarchy’s personal finances Never do I want a communistic regime implementing same payment for every person (we know where that goes ….) so let’s not digress. I will leave it there |
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Post by ronnie on Feb 17, 2022 7:44:59 GMT
Maybe just abolish the monarchy after the queen. She gets (rightly) a lot of respect but in today’s day and age a hereditary king / queen living off taxpayers’ money is antediluvian. It’s not just the person on the throne but the extended family which is a big expense. If the common person at daily wages can pick up the extra council tax tab am sure well-connected royalty will have no issues - might even make them more responsible! Needless to say hopefully not even one penny of the settlement comes from taxpayers Nonsense. So Boris etc is not also living off tax payers money. Think we need to distinguish between (a) legitimate expenses which are ok to be funded by the public exchequer (which includes legitimate expenses for the parliament and all its members, tories or Labour or libdems or others) and (b) profligate ones (wallpaper!, settlement!) Hopefully that much is clear. Anyway that’s it from my side in this thread |
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Post by LondonNorthern on Feb 17, 2022 7:52:13 GMT
This may be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Let’s see I would rather my tax money was used to help someone needy than fund the excesses of a p****phile frankly. Alas it’s not in my control And I guess your next step is that everyone should have the same money, no one should be millionaires etc. Unfortunately we live in a real world where nothing would be equal. And unfortunately in the case of Ghislaine’s family & Epstein money can also make the world evil. So you’re completely right in that no one is equal. |
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