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Post by dashing0ne on Apr 25, 2022 17:27:40 GMT
Macron defeated Le Pen by a margin larger than I expected. What are your thoughts?
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Post by vjaska on Apr 25, 2022 21:39:48 GMT
Macron defeated Le Pen by a margin larger than I expected. What are your thoughts? Thank goodness, bad enough we got the right leading this country without having the far right leading France |
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Post by redbus on Apr 25, 2022 22:09:57 GMT
Macron defeated Le Pen by a margin larger than I expected. What are your thoughts? Thank goodness, bad enough we got the right leading this country without having the far right leading France I feel sorry for the French having what are arguably two poor candidates. I think the better candidates were eliminated in the first round of voting. Of course the French disagree as it it was they who chose to push Macron and Le Pen into the second round. The French have chosen Macron and I hope it works out well for them. I don't think we (UK) will have a good 'entente cordial' for a fair while under either Macron or Le Pen. |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 26, 2022 0:25:53 GMT
Thank goodness, bad enough we got the right leading this country without having the far right leading France I feel sorry for the French having what are arguably two poor candidates. I think the better candidates were eliminated in the first round of voting. Of course the French disagree as it it was they who chose to push Macron and Le Pen into the second round. The French have chosen Macron and I hope it works out well for them. I don't think we (UK) will have a good 'entente cordial' for a fair while under either Macron or Le Pen. Indeed, both candidates are poor but just like the US, I'd rather better the devil you know than have either an unpredictable buffoon (Trump) or a far right, Russian leaning, racist (Le Pen). The relationship with France is already poor and likely won't change as you say but some things are bigger and keeping Le Pen out is worth continuing the poor relationship with Macron |
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Post by Green Kitten on Apr 26, 2022 7:32:18 GMT
I’d rather gouge my eyes out than vote for either, Macron especially with his wretched passe sanitaire.
I voted for Melenchon in the first round, did not for these two devils.
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 26, 2022 9:07:54 GMT
Not really going to comment too much on the election results, just feel sorry for the French people.
First they go to the polls to decided which 2 should go for the presidential run-off head to head.
2 weeks? later they then have to vote for which of the two should be president.
Then a few weeks later they vote for the parliamentary make-up.
Would that increase voter apathy in the UK, or create more interest?
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 26, 2022 9:21:34 GMT
Not really going to comment too much on the election results, just feel sorry for the French people. First they go to the polls to decided which 2 should go for the presidential run-off head to head. 2 weeks? later they then have to vote for which of the two should be president. Then a few weeks later they vote for the parliamentary make-up. Would that increase voter apathy in the UK, or create more interest? I don't know. One thing that did stand out for me though was the turnout at around 72% - although in Britain that would would be regarded as high, many commentators remarked on how low that was for a French presidential election. Many French people - especially on the left - did not feel they had a candidate that represented them. It could make things interesting if those missing voters turn out for the parliamentaries. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 26, 2022 9:45:34 GMT
Not really going to comment too much on the election results, just feel sorry for the French people. First they go to the polls to decided which 2 should go for the presidential run-off head to head. 2 weeks? later they then have to vote for which of the two should be president. Then a few weeks later they vote for the parliamentary make-up. Would that increase voter apathy in the UK, or create more interest? I don't know. One thing that did stand out for me though was the turnout at around 72% - although in Britain that would would be regarded as high, many commentators remarked on how low that was for a French presidential election. Many French people - especially on the left - did not feel they had a candidate that represented them. It could make things interesting if those missing voters turn out for the parliamentaries. Agree, my natural instinct says it will create more voter apathy, but voter turnout in France, when compared to UK, suggests otherwise. Any idea why voter turnouts are so different between the two countries? |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 2, 2022 5:51:35 GMT
I don't know. One thing that did stand out for me though was the turnout at around 72% - although in Britain that would would be regarded as high, many commentators remarked on how low that was for a French presidential election. Many French people - especially on the left - did not feel they had a candidate that represented them. It could make things interesting if those missing voters turn out for the parliamentaries. Agree, my natural instinct says it will create more voter apathy, but voter turnout in France, when compared to UK, suggests otherwise. Any idea why voter turnouts are so different between the two countries? One thing that suppresses turnout here is that first past the post makes s many seats perceived as safe and unlikely to change. So, people wanting to vote for parties not among the top 2 in particular might often not bother. |
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Post by wirewiper on May 2, 2022 7:41:09 GMT
Agree, my natural instinct says it will create more voter apathy, but voter turnout in France, when compared to UK, suggests otherwise. Any idea why voter turnouts are so different between the two countries? One thing that suppresses turnout here is that first past the post makes s many seats perceived as safe and unlikely to change. So, people wanting to vote for parties not among the top 2 in particular might often not bother. I tend to agree, I am now 60 and only on three occasions in my life have I been represented by an MP that I have actually voted for (and I do vote, at every opportunity). What happens under the UK first-past-the-post system is that effectively the coalitions form prior to the elections, not after. Both the Conservative and Labour parties are broad churches, and that leads to internal division and strife. We are seeing the current Government fall apart spectacularly right before our eyes, but it has happened to Labour Governments too, and the current Labour party still has centre-left splits and divisions that need to be managed carefully to avoid a similar implosion. |
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