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Post by greenboy on Jun 1, 2022 10:42:02 GMT
I've just had a quick skim through it on my phone, I'll have a more detailed look on the PC later, a few surprises to say the least.
The 31 being replaced by the 113 and 189, I thought the White City end of the route wouldn't be replaced. And it's going to be strange the 113 no longer going into Central London, a once popular commuter route but I guess it shows how things have changed?
Surely it's a no brainer that the revised 507 should have the number 11? So much easier for people to understand.
A few people predicted the 148 to Dulwich replacing the 12, looks like it really is the end for the number 12.
Bit surprised about the 49 and after all the work that was done to accommodate electric buses although I suppose the same work would have been necessary for LTs on the 19.
A bit of a surprise the 135 going all the way to Homerton Hospital.
A staff notice from Go Ahead on Facebook saying that they stand to lose about 95 buses but significantly they don't envisage any redundancies.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2022 10:45:28 GMT
A staff notice from Go Ahead on Facebook saying that they stand to lose about 95 buses but significantly they don't envisage any redundancies. Other garages however may require staff. Industry is short of drivers everywhere.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 1, 2022 10:50:41 GMT
Go Ahead London have published a letter stating the consultation will be out today. Will be interesting what other surprises will occur as in replacements for some of these routes. The 45 I can see no replacement for it at all. Surely with the 45 you'd just send the 59 round to Clapham Park. The TfL website mentions Coldharbour Lane involving changes to routes 45 and 59 in Lambeth and Southwark. This 'seems to suggest' the 59 would be rerouted via Loughborough Junction and Camberwell Green.
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2022 10:51:38 GMT
I really do wish that TfL had funding from the government again.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 1, 2022 10:52:46 GMT
Quite a bit of overlap between the proposed 113 and 328 - both look like bizzare changes to bring these routes to West London. I guess it was decided extending the 328 to Clapham Junction would make it too long. For what its worth I think @yx10ffn 's idea of extending the 306 to Clapham Junction was far more sensible. 27 to Clapham Junction will provide some interesting new links but I think makes it quite long.
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Post by danorak on Jun 1, 2022 10:54:18 GMT
My head in spinning trying to make sense of this. Not looked back across this thread yet but the 'new' 507 smacks of the 'number spin' I mentioned previously.
Eastbound, it serves none of the existing 507 route expect for a short stretch of the Waterloo taxi road. (It has missed out Victoria Street eastbound for ten years.) This is really a diverted 11 or 211.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 1, 2022 10:55:51 GMT
Liverpool Street-London Bridge corridor taking an absolute battering already lost the 48 and now set to lose the 47 and 133 as well
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 1, 2022 11:07:09 GMT
Surely with the 45 you'd just send the 59 round to Clapham Park. The TfL website mentions Coldharbour Lane involving changes to routes 45 and 59 in Lambeth and Southwark. This 'seems to suggest' the 59 would be rerouted via Loughborough Junction and Camberwell Green. No, it tells you to change to the 35 in Brixton
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Post by Alexis on Jun 1, 2022 11:08:03 GMT
Surely with the 45 you'd just send the 59 round to Clapham Park. The TfL website mentions Coldharbour Lane involving changes to routes 45 and 59 in Lambeth and Southwark. This 'seems to suggest' the 59 would be rerouted via Loughborough Junction and Camberwell Green. The consultation document says that passengers from Clapham Park to Coldharbour Lane can change from the 59 to the 35 at Brixton, the map also shows it retaining its current routing between Brixton and Aldwych
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2022 11:09:54 GMT
So the 14 gets know replacement between Russell Square and Tottenham Court Road.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 1, 2022 11:14:25 GMT
The TfL website mentions Coldharbour Lane involving changes to routes 45 and 59 in Lambeth and Southwark. This 'seems to suggest' the 59 would be rerouted via Loughborough Junction and Camberwell Green. No, it tells you to change to the 35 in Brixton Ok.
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Post by WH241 on Jun 1, 2022 11:16:09 GMT
Only just seen the D3 proposal in detail! Wow the route is reduced to a local on the island only service!
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 1, 2022 11:17:05 GMT
What’s the total PVR saving?
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Post by ADH45258 on Jun 1, 2022 11:19:24 GMT
Only just seen the D3 proposal in detail! Wow the route is reduced to a local on the island only service! Also has no replacement at all between Westferry and Wapping, which is concerning as this is the one part of the DLR where stations are further apart.
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Post by COBO on Jun 1, 2022 11:19:37 GMT
The 476 gets butchered again.
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