|
Post by southlondon413 on Sept 5, 2022 20:41:15 GMT
Judging by today's reception to Truss, Labour must be feeling like they've hit the jackpot. Her low vote margin today will increase pressure on her for a General Election which while I don't see it this year, I could very well see it next year. To be honest, it was choosing between Malaria and Yellow Fever... Rishi never set the world alight, but you could read the room when she said Boris had fans from Kyiv to Carlisle (obvs no friends in Scotland with SNP) which was met with a very long awkward pause before forced applause. This is like trying to crack a joke to a girl who's not really into you on a disastrous date. She will be pwned by Kier every Prime Ministers Questions, they are already lining up her successor. She's Nuno Espirito Santo at Spurs, they are already interviewing managers in the background Like a slipboard on a 318 bus, she'll disappear quickly I think perhaps we should all try to give her a chance before seemingly writing her off completely. She’s not even been appointed by the Queen and there is already a Twitter trend of thick lizzy. It’s just so toxic already and it’s not even been 24 hours.
|
|
|
Post by northlondon83 on Sept 5, 2022 20:56:53 GMT
To be honest, it was choosing between Malaria and Yellow Fever... Rishi never set the world alight, but you could read the room when she said Boris had fans from Kyiv to Carlisle (obvs no friends in Scotland with SNP) which was met with a very long awkward pause before forced applause. This is like trying to crack a joke to a girl who's not really into you on a disastrous date. She will be pwned by Kier every Prime Ministers Questions, they are already lining up her successor. She's Nuno Espirito Santo at Spurs, they are already interviewing managers in the background Like a slipboard on a 318 bus, she'll disappear quickly I think perhaps we should all try to give her a chance before seemingly writing her off completely. She’s not even been appointed by the Queen and there is already a Twitter trend of thick lizzy. It’s just so toxic already and it’s not even been 24 hours. Look what happened to Boris when we did the same...
|
|
|
Post by southlondon413 on Sept 5, 2022 21:02:04 GMT
I think perhaps we should all try to give her a chance before seemingly writing her off completely. She’s not even been appointed by the Queen and there is already a Twitter trend of thick lizzy. It’s just so toxic already and it’s not even been 24 hours. Look what happened to Boris when we did the same... Different person so she should be afforded an opportunity to prove herself. If she hasn’t in a few months than yes she should be held to account. But she has yet to announce a single policy of her premiership, officially appoint a single cabinet member and has yet to be formally appointed by the Queen to form a government. Like we did with Teresa May it’s time to draw a line under the BJ leadership and focus on what Truss could do. This comes from a member of the party who chose not to vote.
|
|
|
Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 5, 2022 21:12:48 GMT
To be honest, it was choosing between Malaria and Yellow Fever... Rishi never set the world alight, but you could read the room when she said Boris had fans from Kyiv to Carlisle (obvs no friends in Scotland with SNP) which was met with a very long awkward pause before forced applause. This is like trying to crack a joke to a girl who's not really into you on a disastrous date. She will be pwned by Kier every Prime Ministers Questions, they are already lining up her successor. She's Nuno Espirito Santo at Spurs, they are already interviewing managers in the background Like a slipboard on a 318 bus, she'll disappear quickly I think perhaps we should all try to give her a chance before seemingly writing her off completely. She’s not even been appointed by the Queen and there is already a Twitter trend of thick lizzy. It’s just so toxic already and it’s not even been 24 hours. I think this is a side effect of the population having no faith in the party as a whole too. Anyone who took over was going to suffer as a result and really only removing them from government could fix it.
|
|
|
Post by southlondon413 on Sept 5, 2022 21:18:46 GMT
I think perhaps we should all try to give her a chance before seemingly writing her off completely. She’s not even been appointed by the Queen and there is already a Twitter trend of thick lizzy. It’s just so toxic already and it’s not even been 24 hours. I think this is a side effect of the population having no faith in the party as a whole too. Anyone who took over was going to suffer as a result and really only removing them from government could fix it. How would a different government fix anything? It’s just the same people with different colour signs. Realistically nothing would change in the short term not with a cost of living crisis affecting economies globally.
|
|
|
Post by rif153 on Sept 5, 2022 21:24:53 GMT
Judging by today's reception to Truss, Labour must be feeling like they've hit the jackpot. Her low vote margin today will increase pressure on her for a General Election which while I don't see it this year, I could very well see it next year. Not quite. This tweet reflecting what Starmer said nails it. Liz Truss is a different kettle of fish to Boris and for Labour, shouldn't be underestimated. Like her or not, she is a hard worker with huge determination who has gotten to the top of the greasy pole by switching between fashionable political narratives. She will be the same as PM and regrettably, like Boris, many will fall for this. Complacency is the enemy of success. I'd expect a general election next year at the earliest. Probably 2024. They'll stretch it out in the naive hope of the economy picking up, although the writing is on the wall for a deep and long crash. I'm seeing far too much complacency from Labour figures who seem to assume the next election is in the bag, like they thought it was in the run up to 1992 and look how that one turned out. The Tories are very good at winning elections and it would be foolish to write them off now. Both Starmer and Truss are pretty uninspiring and people will decide one of them is the least worst option rather than voting positively.
|
|
|
Post by greenboy on Sept 5, 2022 21:38:10 GMT
Not quite. This tweet reflecting what Starmer said nails it. Liz Truss is a different kettle of fish to Boris and for Labour, shouldn't be underestimated. Like her or not, she is a hard worker with huge determination who has gotten to the top of the greasy pole by switching between fashionable political narratives. She will be the same as PM and regrettably, like Boris, many will fall for this. Complacency is the enemy of success. I'd expect a general election next year at the earliest. Probably 2024. They'll stretch it out in the naive hope of the economy picking up, although the writing is on the wall for a deep and long crash. I'm seeing far too much complacency from Labour figures who seem to assume the next election is in the bag, like they thought it was in the run up to 1992 and look how that one turned out. The Tories are very good at winning elections and it would be foolish to write them off now. Both Starmer and Truss are pretty uninspiring and people will decide one of them is the least worst option rather than voting positively. I totally agree with your final sentence, for many people it will be a case of voting for the least worst option.
|
|
|
Post by northlondon83 on Sept 5, 2022 21:49:42 GMT
I'm seeing far too much complacency from Labour figures who seem to assume the next election is in the bag, like they thought it was in the run up to 1992 and look how that one turned out. The Tories are very good at winning elections and it would be foolish to write them off now. Both Starmer and Truss are pretty uninspiring and people will decide one of them is the least worst option rather than voting positively. I totally agree with your final sentence, for many people it will be a case of voting for the least worst option. It's been like that since 2017, Theresa May was uninspiring but Corbyn was seen as too extremist. Then 2019 Boris had a better reputation than Corbyn so it was clear why Corbyn lost but also Boris had a clearer view on Brexit. If there was a general election earlier this year it would be similar to 2017 with Boris's reputation damaged but Keir starmer not great either
|
|
|
Post by YX10FFN on Sept 6, 2022 17:16:25 GMT
Loosely related, Shapps resigns as Transport Secretary. Something most enthusiasts can celebrate.
|
|
|
Post by ServerKing on Sept 6, 2022 18:33:24 GMT
Loosely related, Shapps resigns as Transport Secretary. Something most enthusiasts can celebrate. Oh no!!! Who will Level Up the 318s now? This latest change of personnel is like bringing on Dele Alli in the 83rd minute whilst trailing 4-1 Can't do any worse than Bojo, but it will be interesting to see what direction the government heads in now. Will GBR (Great British Railways) get a less grandiose name and just be BR again?
|
|
|
Post by WH241 on Sept 6, 2022 19:10:17 GMT
The new cabinet is being appointed
Kwasi Kwarteng as chancellor James Cleverly as foreign secretary Suella Braverman as home secretary Therese Coffey as deputy prime minister and health secretary Brandon Lewis is appointed the new lord chancellor and justice secretary
|
|
|
Post by vjaska on Sept 6, 2022 20:06:59 GMT
Loosely related, Shapps resigns as Transport Secretary. Something most enthusiasts can celebrate. Good though we'll likely end up with someone equally as inept...
|
|
|
Post by rif153 on Sept 6, 2022 20:51:05 GMT
Truly dire new cabinet and I thought the ones under Johnson were bad
|
|
|
Post by YX10FFN on Sept 6, 2022 21:02:29 GMT
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, most recently International Trade Secretary, is the new Transport Secretary.
|
|
|
Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 6, 2022 21:26:17 GMT
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, most recently International Trade Secretary, is the new Transport Secretary. Starting to wonder if she picked these names out of a hat.
|
|