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Post by buspete on Jul 28, 2024 21:20:11 GMT
No surprise that Kemi Badenoch (Private) is running, Cruella Braverman isn’t running, I only can assume she didn’t get the 10 nominations.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 28, 2024 21:23:54 GMT
How exactly was that declined? When it was proved on multiple occasions. Don’t worry I had this before the General Election from the same poster after an unsavoury incident involving racism from the said party. I didn’t raise to the bait, I just let the news cycle do it’s work instead and it did its work. What incident was this? |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 15, 2024 18:27:14 GMT
There are people who want the least electable Tory leader chosen, to minimise their chances at the next General Election.
I would be inclined to recommend against, even though I prefer a Labour led government. Firstly, it is not guaranteed that they will lose under a terrible leader. What would more likely happen is that their re-election would be delayed, then be a larger majority and a longer term government.
If we are going to get a Tory government next time, my ranking for choice of leader would be
1. Tom Tugendhat
2. James Cleverly
3. Kemi Badenoch
4. Robert Jenrick
I always found Robert Jenrick boring in government. Also, I think he is pandering to the right to gain their votes, rather like Liz Truss did. Like her or loathe her, at least Kemi Badenoch is more sincere.
I would have put Mel Stride at number 1a, and Priti Patel at number 2a, if you get my drift. You can tell I've been reading too many London tender tranche numbers!
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Post by ServerKing on Sept 15, 2024 19:14:22 GMT
There are people who want the least electable Tory leader chosen, to minimise their chances at the next General Election. I would be inclined to recommend against, even though I prefer a Labour led government. Firstly, it is not guaranteed that they will lose under a terrible leader. What would more likely happen is that their re-election would be delayed, then be a larger majority and a longer term government. If we are going to get a Tory government next time, my ranking for choice of leader would be 1. Tom Tugendhat 2. James Cleverly 3. Kemi Badenoch 4. Robert Jenrick I always found Robert Jenrick boring in government. Also, I think he is pandering to the right to gain their votes, rather like Liz Truss did. Like her or loathe her, at least Kemi Badenoch is more sincere. I would have put Mel Stride at number 1a, and Priti Patel at number 2a, if you get my drift. You can tell I've been reading too many London tender tranche numbers! Jenrick will be over before you know it, like Stagecoach with the W9  November 2024: Contract awarded to Kemi Badenoch with Existing Rhetoric from Millbank Garage (3 years) (150924) 1 December — New Accusations at Starmer Introduced. PVR (Peak Viciousness Rate) TBC.  |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2024 19:38:02 GMT
There are people who want the least electable Tory leader chosen, to minimise their chances at the next General Election. I would be inclined to recommend against, even though I prefer a Labour led government. Firstly, it is not guaranteed that they will lose under a terrible leader. What would more likely happen is that their re-election would be delayed, then be a larger majority and a longer term government. If we are going to get a Tory government next time, my ranking for choice of leader would be 1. Tom Tugendhat 2. James Cleverly 3. Kemi Badenoch 4. Robert Jenrick I always found Robert Jenrick boring in government. Also, I think he is pandering to the right to gain their votes, rather like Liz Truss did. Like her or loathe her, at least Kemi Badenoch is more sincere. I would have put Mel Stride at number 1a, and Priti Patel at number 2a, if you get my drift. You can tell I've been reading too many London tender tranche numbers! I think the only leader that could potentially have a stab at Labour would have been Penny Mordaunt. I think Kemi will be walked all over as she won't unite the party. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 28, 2024 19:55:47 GMT
There are people who want the least electable Tory leader chosen, to minimise their chances at the next General Election. I would be inclined to recommend against, even though I prefer a Labour led government. Firstly, it is not guaranteed that they will lose under a terrible leader. What would more likely happen is that their re-election would be delayed, then be a larger majority and a longer term government. If we are going to get a Tory government next time, my ranking for choice of leader would be 1. Tom Tugendhat 2. James Cleverly 3. Kemi Badenoch 4. Robert Jenrick I always found Robert Jenrick boring in government. Also, I think he is pandering to the right to gain their votes, rather like Liz Truss did. Like her or loathe her, at least Kemi Badenoch is more sincere. I would have put Mel Stride at number 1a, and Priti Patel at number 2a, if you get my drift. You can tell I've been reading too many London tender tranche numbers! I think the only leader that could potentially have a stab at Labour would have been Penny Mordaunt. I think Kemi will be walked all over as she won't unite the party. Even if Penny had managed that in 2022, she is out of the running for now, having lost her seat in July. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 28, 2024 21:17:48 GMT
I think the only leader that could potentially have a stab at Labour would have been Penny Mordaunt. I think Kemi will be walked all over as she won't unite the party. Even if Penny had managed that in 2022, she is out of the running for now, having lost her seat in July. But being party leader they would have thrown a lot more weight and money behind her local campaign or even catapulted her into a safer seat. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 12, 2024 12:04:31 GMT
Slightly surprised it hasn't been mentioned, however the Conservative Party has fallen into irrelevance recently.
Jenrick and Badenoch seem to be the final two, interestingly bookies have neither of them lasting long term either. I think Labour are going to enjoy the result of the Leadership result more than the Tories themselves will.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 12, 2024 12:38:27 GMT
Slightly surprised it hasn't been mentioned, however the Conservative Party has fallen into irrelevance recently. Jenrick and Badenoch seem to be the final two, interestingly bookies have neither of them lasting long term either. I think Labour are going to enjoy the result of the Leadership result more than the Tories themselves will. Whilst I’m not a fan of Cleverly, they have shot themselves in the foot by not choosing him. Now they are left with a Farage wannabe (in fact, even Farage criticised him over the whole removal of Disney murals at the immigration centre) and a Thatcher knock off who has a short temper and will definitely be set traps by journalists to expose it. Apparently, Labour saw Cleveley as the big threat, someone who can look & sound professional and prime ministerial but he’s out of the contest. |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 12, 2024 12:47:46 GMT
Slightly surprised it hasn't been mentioned, however the Conservative Party has fallen into irrelevance recently. Jenrick and Badenoch seem to be the final two, interestingly bookies have neither of them lasting long term either. I think Labour are going to enjoy the result of the Leadership result more than the Tories themselves will. Whilst I’m not a fan of Cleverly, they have shot themselves in the foot by not choosing him. Now they are left with a Farage wannabe (in fact, even Farage criticised him over the whole removal of Disney murals at the immigration centre) and a Thatcher knock off who has a short temper and will definitely be set traps by journalists to expose it. Apparently, Labour saw Cleveley as the big threat, someone who can look & sound professional and prime ministerial but he’s out of the contest. |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 12, 2024 12:53:39 GMT
Whilst I’m not a fan of Cleverly, they have shot themselves in the foot by not choosing him. Now they are left with a Farage wannabe (in fact, even Farage criticised him over the whole removal of Disney murals at the immigration centre) and a Thatcher knock off who has a short temper and will definitely be set traps by journalists to expose it. Apparently, Labour saw Cleveley as the big threat, someone who can look & sound professional and prime ministerial but he’s out of the contest. This is the opposite of a mixed bag, both of them are quite hard right and there's even talk of confidence votes being called in them as the One Nation group refusing to endorse either candidate. |
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Post by buspete on Oct 12, 2024 23:49:49 GMT
I agree with an earlier poster that the Conservatives have shot themselves in the foot by not electing James Cleverly, who also seem to have shot himself in the foot. I also agree with Michael Heseltine who said that “the next Conservative Prime Minister isn’t sitting in Parliament.”
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 7:52:51 GMT
Slightly surprised it hasn't been mentioned, however the Conservative Party has fallen into irrelevance recently. Jenrick and Badenoch seem to be the final two, interestingly bookies have neither of them lasting long term either. I think Labour are going to enjoy the result of the Leadership result more than the Tories themselves will. If the winner lasts at least a year, their anniversary will be the 40th anniversary of some London bus changes such as the closures of Battersea, Poplar & Walworth garages and the opo conversions of routes 40, 63, 133 & 266 among others. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 7:55:58 GMT
I initially thought Tom would have been the end candidate, but then shocked he came out two rounds ago. Then I thought Cleverly would be the person, but some tactical voting the last round has backfired and it is a really mixed bag.Badenoch and Jenrick reach final two in Tory raceRobert Jenrick and Kemi Badenoch are through to the final round of the Conservative leadership race after knocking out James Cleverly.www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje343q1zy8o This is the opposite of a mixed bag, both of them are quite hard right and there's even talk of confidence votes being called in them as the One Nation group refusing to endorse either candidate. There is a rumour that the rules are being changed so that it would take 36 MPs writing letters to cause a vote of confidence in the leader. Well, whoever wins, the 37 MPs who voted for James Cleverly in the final round could submit such letters, then the 79 or 80 who did not vote for the winner could then vote him/her out. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 20, 2024 7:57:27 GMT
I agree with an earlier poster that the Conservatives have shot themselves in the foot by not electing James Cleverly, who also seem to have shot himself in the foot. I also agree with Michael Heseltine who said that “the next Conservative Prime Minister isn’t sitting in Parliament.” Interestingly the same thing happened after 1979, 1997 & 2010. Tony Blair, David Cameron & Keir Starmer were first elected MPs at the start of their parties' 2nd term of opposition. |
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