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Post by COBO on Nov 16, 2022 3:58:13 GMT
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Post by abellion on Nov 16, 2022 6:29:44 GMT
Hopefully the actual ones are correct, unlike the 9/28 example shown! |
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 16, 2022 6:35:46 GMT
Hopefully the actual ones are correct, unlike the 9/28 example shown! Along with the high spec E400EVs, most 63 stops have been equipped with these or similar |
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 16, 2022 7:11:11 GMT
I can see it not happening in less favourable areas prone to vandalism. It's a good idea but I'd like to see more LED blinds retrofitted, and for those to display more information rather than a one word destination  Greater Anglia have really upped their game with new departure boards at Tottenham Hale, showing all sorts of information such as toilet location on the train, how many coaches the train has, if on time or delayed. Something like this would be good for buses too, but I could see some moron smashing the screen or tagging it with graffiti... |
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Post by rm1422 on Nov 16, 2022 9:31:18 GMT
I find it very risky as it means the possibility of zero information when the technology fails.
The original bus number flags have gone replaced by the screen. We all know how often Countdown displays are dead. Add to that inaccurate or completely missing timetable information on the bus stop panels and the chances of being unable to tell if this is the right bus stop for your route disappear. |
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 16, 2022 10:28:54 GMT
How long will these batteries last? Presume if the displays has broken, and the battery is still good, you can still get the audible version? Are they dropping route number tiles when these stops convert? Plenty of unknowns, but generally initially in favour if this. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Nov 16, 2022 10:37:46 GMT
Hopefully the actual ones are correct, unlike the 9/28 example shown! Along with the high spec E400EVs, most 63 stops have been equipped with these or similar I’ve seen these on some 63 stops too, and they look similar to what Edinburgh are using to display next bus information (though I think Edinburgh uses flip dot displays). Nevertheless, these would be useful for stops that don’t already have any countdown displays and could also work well for stops that serve fewer than 3 routes. The vast majority of people can check bus information using their phones, but not everyone does, so this would be a good way to reduce digital exclusion. |
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Post by M1104 on Nov 16, 2022 10:57:52 GMT
The original route tiles should remain in case of tech failure, else some punters won't know which stop to wait at in places with multiple bus stops, ie Brixton, Tooting Broadway Wimbledon, etc. Also would the screen give passengers at least minimal info whenever buses go on scheduled/unscheduled diversions?
Eg. "Buses presently not serving this stop due to diversion/curtailments"
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Post by rj131 on Nov 16, 2022 11:28:39 GMT
I think that’s a really neat little solution I really like it, I absolutely love the fact it looks a little more old school. I do hope the tiles will still remain though as when Ibus occasionally goes down it takes all the information with it.
If it still provides the same quality information and saves TfL a few quid in the process then it’s a win win for everyone if you ask me.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Nov 16, 2022 12:07:47 GMT
Preivous versions of the same thing had the route tiles in place with the new countdown unit below it. Unless this is now what they propose to do.
This is nothing new and has been used in many countries around the world for 5 years or more. We always seem to be slow to introduce things we invent or create.
They missed a trick to have the battery to be solar charged. I believe it to last for a few weeks similar to a ring doorbell.
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 16, 2022 18:37:43 GMT
Preivous versions of the same thing had the route tiles in place with the new countdown unit below it. Unless this is now what they propose to do. This is nothing new and has been used in many countries around the world for 5 years or more. We always seem to be slow to introduce things we invent or create. They missed a trick to have the battery to be solar charged. I believe it to last for a few weeks similar to a ring doorbell. If it's like a Ring doorbell, I have one of the originals that last about a month and charges via USB A / micro. It will be a faff for TfL to run around changing batteries every so often. A solar cell is a great idea. TfL is always slow on the uptake, the last to embrace LED blinds and USB charging on buses  |
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Post by WH241 on Nov 16, 2022 20:09:37 GMT
Amazing how long it has taken to get as far as we have with real time information at bus stops. I remember around 1988 /1989 first seeing countdown stops in South East London on the 36 and 36B. I know the technology was very different back then but you would have throughout we would have lots more stops in London with real time information. Those displays remind me a bit of the Nokia 3210 
This all feels a bit late with most people having apps on their phones.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 17, 2022 0:01:47 GMT
Neat design but would rather the bus stop flag be enlarged so this and route tiles can both be displayed
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 17, 2022 17:27:07 GMT
Neat design but would rather the bus stop flag be enlarged so this and route tiles can both be displayed It will be okay until XR offshoot Just Stop Buses throw Minestrone Soup at the flag, damaging the delicate electrics inside  TfL who can't be arsed to put more information such as scrolling points on an LED bus blind, won't invest in anything too useful |
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