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Post by wirewiper on Nov 16, 2022 18:34:05 GMT
The entire London Overground line between London Euston and Watford Junction will close for a week, from Saturday 17th through to Friday 23rd December. The Bakerloo Line will also be suspended between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone.
During the closure, around 6,000 wooden sleepers dating back to the 1950s will be replaced with concrete sleepers, and around 10km of signalling cable will also be replaced. The power supply to the Overground and Underground will be upgraded, as will the drainage between Harlesden and Kenton, and a derelict substation will be demolished to prevent it collapsing onto the tracks.
During the closure, passengers will be advised to use National Rail services serving Watford Junction, Bushey, Harrow & Wealdstone, Wembley Central and London Euston; to use Underground services at Harrow-on-the-Hill, Northwick Park, Preston Road and Wembley Park, or use the following rail replacement bus services that will operate during the closure:
Route 718: Queen's Park to Harrow & Wealdstone calling at Kensal Green, Willesden Junction, Harlesden (Town Centre), Stonebridge Park, Wembley Central, North Wembley, Preston Road, Kenton
Route 719: Queen's Park to Harrow & Wealdstone calling at Kensal Green, Willesden Junction, Harlesden (Town Centre), Stonebridge Park, Wembley Central then fast (operates at certain times only).
Route 720: Harrow & Wealdstone to Watford Junction calling at Headstone Lane, Hatch End (Harrow Arts Centre), Carpenders Park, Bushey, Watford High Street
The line will also be closed from Saturday 11th through to Sunday 19th February 2023.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 16, 2022 18:58:07 GMT
Who will operate these and with what?
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 16, 2022 18:59:05 GMT
Just to add, these should be the operators for the services : 718 - Abellio 719 - Metroline 720 - Sullivans Buses
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 16, 2022 19:07:34 GMT
All with DDs?
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 16, 2022 19:40:18 GMT
Not sure on allocations, but believe 720 has to be single decker due to a low bridge. This is from the latest route record I have : SINGLE DECK BUSES ONLY – LOW BRIDGE (14’ 3”) AT EASTBURY ROAD, BUSHEY, LOW TREES IN CARPENDERS PARK
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Nov 16, 2022 19:48:28 GMT
Not sure on allocations, but believe 720 has to be single decker due to a low bridge. This is from the latest route record I have : SINGLE DECK BUSES ONLY – LOW BRIDGE (14’ 3”) AT EASTBURY ROAD, BUSHEY, LOW TREES IN CARPENDERS PARK I may cover some of these days if I feel like it as I don't live too far from the Queens Park end, it would make for a decent day out in the North West.
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 16, 2022 20:02:00 GMT
Not sure on allocations, but believe 720 has to be single decker due to a low bridge. This is from the latest route record I have : SINGLE DECK BUSES ONLY – LOW BRIDGE (14’ 3”) AT EASTBURY ROAD, BUSHEY, LOW TREES IN CARPENDERS PARK I may cover some of these days if I feel like it as I don't live too far from the Queens Park end, it would make for a decent day out in the North West. I'll probably be out working on either the 718 or 720
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Post by kmkcheng on Nov 16, 2022 23:28:24 GMT
Does that mean LNR will make an additional stop at Wembley Central during the week? Conveniently the new timetable has the off peak frequency of Harrow & Wealdstone stoppers double from 2tph to 4tph on Monday to Saturday.
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Post by astock5000 on Nov 16, 2022 23:52:49 GMT
Not sure on allocations, but believe 720 has to be single decker due to a low bridge. This is from the latest route record I have : SINGLE DECK BUSES ONLY – LOW BRIDGE (14’ 3”) AT EASTBURY ROAD, BUSHEY, LOW TREES IN CARPENDERS PARK The odd thing with this bridge is that many years ago full height double deckers used to pass under it. LT / London Country routes 346 and 347 used Eastbury Road with their RTs and RMLs, and in fact this took place again with Routemasters during a running day eight years ago. Looking on Google Street View the bridge has been signed as 14ft 3 since at least 2008 (the large "Low bridge" writing is more recent however) so it was apparently overlooked at the time, though for a similar event the following year only single deckers ran that way. All this makes me wonder how long the bridge has been signed as such and why it was altered - I can only assume it was found that there wasn't enough of a margin?
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 16, 2022 23:58:42 GMT
Not sure on allocations, but believe 720 has to be single decker due to a low bridge. This is from the latest route record I have : SINGLE DECK BUSES ONLY – LOW BRIDGE (14’ 3”) AT EASTBURY ROAD, BUSHEY, LOW TREES IN CARPENDERS PARK The odd thing with this bridge is that many years ago full height double deckers used to pass under it. LT / London Country routes 346 and 347 used Eastbury Road with their RTs and RMLs, and in fact this took place again with Routemasters during a running day eight years ago. Looking on Google Street View the bridge has been signed as 14ft 3 since at least 2008 (the large "Low bridge" writing is more recent however) so it was apparently overlooked at the time, though for a similar event the following year only single deckers ran that way. All this makes me wonder how long the bridge has been signed as such and why it was altered - I can only assume it was found that there wasn't enough of a margin? Some non-TFL DD school services still operate under this bridge (Sullivan's 832/833). As Lower High Street in Watford can be prone to flooding, I've previously wondered why the 142/258 have never gone this way on diversion (instead of the very long diversion up to the A41 and back)? DDs might be able to be used on the Overground Replacement service if Carpenders Park was instead served to the east of the station.
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 17, 2022 0:02:16 GMT
Route 720: Harrow & Wealdstone to Watford Junction calling at Headstone Lane, Hatch End (Harrow Arts Centre), Carpenders Park, Bushey, Watford High Street Looking at TFL's page, it seems the 720 will actually continue to terminate at Harrow-on-the-Hill to connect with the Metropolitan Line.
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Post by Green Kitten on Nov 17, 2022 7:06:05 GMT
Does that mean LNR will make an additional stop at Wembley Central during the week? Conveniently the new timetable has the off peak frequency of Harrow & Wealdstone stoppers double from 2tph to 4tph on Monday to Saturday. Believe that’s the plan, certainly for February at least.
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Post by TA1 on Nov 17, 2022 7:59:44 GMT
Does that mean LNR will make an additional stop at Wembley Central during the week? Conveniently the new timetable has the off peak frequency of Harrow & Wealdstone stoppers double from 2tph to 4tph on Monday to Saturday. From December, LNWR will stop serving Wembley Central completely, as they’ll be running longer trains (12 cars) on services and it appears the 350’s aren’t fitted with SDO, so the stop has been dropped, which for me as been a god send over the years, but since Covid, LNWR silently dropped the Wembley stop on of the 2 tring stoppers during the day off peak and after the evening peak.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 17, 2022 8:33:16 GMT
Does that mean LNR will make an additional stop at Wembley Central during the week? Conveniently the new timetable has the off peak frequency of Harrow & Wealdstone stoppers double from 2tph to 4tph on Monday to Saturday. There are still the Southern services at Wembley Central. They are only hourly but may help some people especially travelling to and from Watford. I wonder if LNR services will call additionally at Queen's Park, or has that been stopped now?
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Post by TA1 on Nov 17, 2022 8:52:11 GMT
Does that mean LNR will make an additional stop at Wembley Central during the week? Conveniently the new timetable has the off peak frequency of Harrow & Wealdstone stoppers double from 2tph to 4tph on Monday to Saturday. There are still the Southern services at Wembley Central. They are only hourly but may help some people especially travelling to and from Watford. I wonder if LNR services will call additionally at Queen's Park, or has that been stopped now? The Queens Park has been ceased many years ago, the platforms are still intact, same with the old customer information monitors used by Silverlink. Unsure whether what condition the platforms are in, mind you.
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