Route 302

[Busboy105]

Dec 19, 2022 20:08:25 GMT evergreenadam said:

Dec 19, 2022 19:59:29 GMT VWH1414 said:

Oh no, I will say Metroline in general have done a very good job with the 186 - despite its very difficult conditions. But more so it'd help reduce the number of turns that end up inevitably have to be made to keep the service running at a good level (Which with the 186 they tend to do very tactically). Its more so of an idea that it could be done, by no means should it necessarily happen. But with cuts at the moment it could in theory be done and wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea (Although knowing TfL it would end up being a botch job like the 303/305), as the 186 from many years of observation has 2 main different flows which could be cut down into two separate routes.

For example I think a Edgware to Brent Park link would go down pretty well since there's no links to the big IKEA (Costco also being around the corner) and could be done utilising the 186 if you split it in two and you could actually replace the 288 with the shorter end of the 186 from Brent Cross to Edgware, with potential to extend it from Fryent Way and Wembley Park to Brent Park (But on the flip side it would run into traffic in Wembley Park that said), and the 303 like someone else mentioned does have scope to extend to Broadfields. Very much just fantasy ideas perhaps, but could work in real time - definitely not something I'd say should be brought in right away or even necessarily anytime soon however.

Overall, there isn't actually much I'd say I would desperately change in this area - Its actually a decent network currently. The main thing which I was very vocal about is the 303, which should've at least been replaced on its lost road. But even then I've made it work, just with a lengthened journey time of having to walk to either Mill Hill to catch the 221/240 or Watling Avenue to catch the 186. But thankfully these days I work in Central so its a case of just catching a 302 to Burnt Oak and then the tube (Or 114/251 if I just miss one and I'm running late - Or in the case of the diversion in October where the 302 was not serving my road for a month due to roadworks).

Where is Broadfields?

It's an estate not far from Edgware. The 288 stops there

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The 302 is well run in my opinion. I used to take it everyday from Willesden Green Library to Blackbird Hill. During the Primary school days. This is when it was first got a double decker, which was much needed.

Kensal Rise to Willesden Green is well used.

It also goes near Willesden Sport Centre one of the two main sports centres in Brent. It is probably one of the most crucial buses during the school peak. It would be cool to see it extended though. Maybe past Mill Hill, to create better links between N and NW London. But one of the earlier development papers for OOC, had it go down All Souls instead of Chamberlayne Rd to OOC. As Kensal Rise to Mill Hill is not too long of an average runtime. The only major traffic hub i would say is Neasden Underpass.

I also think that the Chapter Rd stop should add in Dollis Hill Station. As it is close enough to the stop, or some sort of acknowledgement on the IBus.

Night wise, the N98 takes quite a bit of the Routing. I dont think there would be any need for a N52 to Mill Hill. 

But it would be cool to have more overlap between 302 and 452 seeing as they are part of the 52