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Post by richard on Jun 22, 2023 21:30:04 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 22, 2023 21:42:40 GMT
Unfortunately it was inevitable. The construction of the sub was the main flaw I believe. Experts have also said 2 days ago that it was gradually showing sings of fatigue and wear and tear. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 22, 2023 21:53:28 GMT
Such a waste of life  there's something odd about the way billionaires behave at the best of times, if you've got all that cash, why not make an ROV (remote operated vehicle) to go down to see the Titanic rather than risk it all in such a flimsy vessel? If someone told me the vessel I'm in then has to be drilled shut and sealed from the outside, there's no way I'm trying to go 12,500 feet down in it or two and a half miles (Moorgate to Islington in terms of distance), apparently it broke up just yards from the Titanic wreck itself... Too many red flags from the start... batteries failed in the last voyage the craft made, it's run by a Bluetooth controller like something from an xbox... you can barely move whilst inside for hours on end. Condolences for the families and friends affected by this misadventure... |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jun 23, 2023 4:37:28 GMT
This is where I may sound a bit controversial for what I'm about to say. My sympathy for those that have passed is somewhat capped. Whilst it is sad that they have passed away and now this has affected their families in the process, they were warned about the risks involved and signed waivers. The fact that the sub was bolted from the outside meant that even if they found the ship it would have been harder for them to get them out because of the pressure of the ocean. Yesterday confirmed what most people knew. The implosion. The one that does hurt the most out of all of them is the 19 year old son that has passed. The boy hadn't even begun life yet.
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Post by greenboy on Jun 23, 2023 6:56:30 GMT
This is where I may sound a bit controversial for what I'm about to say. My sympathy for those that have passed is somewhat capped. Whilst it is sad that they have passed away and now this has affected their families in the process, they were warned about the risks involved and signed waivers. The fact that the sub was bolted from the outside meant that even if they found the ship it would have been harder for them to get them out because of the pressure of the ocean. Yesterday confirmed what most people knew. The implosion. The one that does hurt the most out of all of them is the 19 year old son that has passed. The boy hadn't even begun life yet. I understand your point but there will always be adventurers, thrill seekers and adrenaline junkies who are willing to take risks, mountaineering, pot holing and the Isle of Man TT races that have claimed many lives but still people willingly participate. I think the only crumb of comfort here is that it would have been instantaneous and they didn't suffer for days. |
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Post by MKAY315 on Jun 23, 2023 7:07:31 GMT
This is where I may sound a bit controversial for what I'm about to say. My sympathy for those that have passed is somewhat capped. Whilst it is sad that they have passed away and now this has affected their families in the process, they were warned about the risks involved and signed waivers. The fact that the sub was bolted from the outside meant that even if they found the ship it would have been harder for them to get them out because of the pressure of the ocean. Yesterday confirmed what most people knew. The implosion. The one that does hurt the most out of all of them is the 19 year old son that has passed. The boy hadn't even begun life yet. I understand your point but there will always be adventurers, thrill seekers and adrenaline junkies who are willing to take risks, mountaineering, pot holing and the Isle of Man TT races that have claimed many lives but still people willingly participate. I think the only crumb of comfort here is that it would have been instantaneous and they didn't suffer for days. There's adventures but visiting the titanic ship is not one of them as one scientist Michael Guillen put it mildly. That place is a graveyard not a tourist attraction. |
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Post by cardinal on Jun 24, 2023 14:38:43 GMT
I agree re Titanic site being a graveyard. I can understand its morbid curiosity. But I don’t understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives to see it. It’s a sad story all around. And I liken it to being a warning. Im not superstitious but many hundreds of souls are resting down there and we should not disturb or gawp at them.
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Post by southlondon413 on Jun 24, 2023 17:22:26 GMT
I agree re Titanic site being a graveyard. I can understand its morbid curiosity. But I don’t understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives to see it. It’s a sad story all around. And I liken it to being a warning. Im not superstitious but many hundreds of souls are resting down there and we should not disturb or gawp at them. To be clear though there aren’t bones to gawp at or even see. There may be some shoes resting on the ocean floor but even they may be gone now. |
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Post by ServerKing on Jun 25, 2023 3:11:39 GMT
There are reports that OceanGate had specifically worded legal documents that had to be signed to highlight it was an "experimental" craft and they knew the risk of death, allegedly written in the text 3 times, also one bit of blurb that prevents them accepting responsibility, it will be interesting to see what the courts in Canada do next (they were based in Newfoundland, but not far from US border, hence US Coastguard coming to assist). They say the laws around submarines are where the aviation laws were in the 1920s, so very little may happen...
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 25, 2023 15:14:34 GMT
I agree re Titanic site being a graveyard. I can understand its morbid curiosity. But I don’t understand why anyone would want to risk their own lives to see it. It’s a sad story all around. And I liken it to being a warning. Im not superstitious but many hundreds of souls are resting down there and we should not disturb or gawp at them. I would not say it was life risking to do. What I would say is life risking is to go in an unapproved "experimental" vehicle to depths like that is begging for disaster. As others had said, OceanGate had that cavalier attitude the Titanic's makers stated when they said it was unsinkable. Titanic director James Cameron accuses OceanGate of cutting cornersHollywood film director James Cameron, who directed the 1997 movie Titanic, has told the BBC the team who built the submersible which imploded with the loss of five lives had "cut corners".www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65994707 |
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 25, 2023 22:10:50 GMT
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there's something odd about the way billionaires behave at the best of times, if you've got all that cash, why not make an ROV (remote operated vehicle) to go down to see the Titanic rather than risk it all in such a flimsy vessel? If someone told me the vessel I'm in then has to be drilled shut and sealed from the outside, there's no way I'm trying to go 12,500 feet down in it or two and a half miles (Moorgate to Islington in terms of distance), apparently it broke up just yards from the Titanic wreck itself...
